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[SelfProtection]

Originally Posted by SelfProtection

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=13477

If anyone thinks oix webwise etc are being mirrored to the U.S, I think they should complain to the ICO before the test begins!

http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-149.txt

[Bonglet]

Nice to hear frank and i hope you take them all to the cleaners for the damage and distress you had and hope it opens up cases for many more and gets the word out properly to the many other claims that still dont know what is happening.

Hamsterwheel we heard all of this kent talk before off kent himself at the town hall meeting nothing you have been saying is changing from what kent said back then to what you say now so nothing has changed :P.

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo

Yes, I update Chris Williams regularly.

The 1000s of claims is a possibility. It could be that victims of the trials "could" be entitled to compensation but it does depend on other factors which is dependent on if BT are prosecuted in some way.

In my case it is crystal clear - there was quantifiable damage to my business. The ICO have given me a green light and I am encouraged after taking legal advice.

Don't forget those damages extend to all the -time- you have spent on this issue as well, including the time you have spent in the last couple of months trying to get information from ICO, any time you spent troubleshooting the problem and any time you spent buying a new computer and setting it up. All this time should be billed at your professional rate and will probably add up to a lot more than the cost of the actual computer itself.

Then you should apply for punitive damages if you feel your company was negatively effected by the situation (for example, did you lose any potential customers due to downtime, did you have any problems which were noticed by your clients which could have led to a negative opinion of your professionalism).

Don't just hold the damages at the cost of the PC, you have spent, I expect, hundreds if not thousands of hours on this issue and BT should be liable for all of that.

Alexander Hanff

[Privacy_Matters]

Originally Posted by SelfProtection

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=13477

If anyone thinks oix webwise etc are being mirrored to the U.S, I think they should complain to the ICO before the test begins!

I checked the IPs and they all are from Sheffield

I think this will make a few ears prop up - 'BT 21CN Complex (Sheffield) QUIETLY goes Live':

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...goes-live.html

21CN Webpage:

http://www.btplc.com/21cn/

And the IPs:

(217.41.167....)

http://www.robtex.com/cnet/217.41.167.html

May be nothing - may be something, anyone with better skills, please look into.

[serial]

Glancing at my stats again, finally been hit by the msnbot, but live.com still doesn't index even though I've verified the site on their webmaster page(useless).

New "browser":
"serial, do you read all the stats?"

LOL, could agent strings be the new method of secret communication

[SelfProtection]

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters

I checked the IPs and they all are from Sheffield

I think this will make a few ears prop up - 'BT 21CN Complex (Sheffield) QUIETLY goes Live':

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...goes-live.html

21CN Webpage:

http://www.btplc.com/21cn/

And the IPs:

(217.41.167....)

http://www.robtex.com/cnet/217.41.167.html

May be nothing - may be something, anyone with better skills, please look into.

I thought the Login was insecure on the BT Forums & other parts of BT, but I've just discovered an area where the BT Forum site also publishes BT Account User Logon Names.

I have logged & captured the particular area, but will not publish it here because I would be compounding their lax security procedures!

[BadPhormula]

Originally Posted by HamsterWheel

... As for Badphorm - I can't get into that either at my office or from home. They must have found a way of blocking me as they don't like anyone posting there who is not on-message.

BadPhorm is blocking you?!

You need to be a little bit more truthful about why you aren't welcome over on BadPhorm if you don't want the same treatment over here on CF forum. You went out of your way to be deliberately provocative and you was banned because you are a lameduck troll and a Phorm shill.

Hamster you have made several references to your interest in ladies clothing so I've got to ask are you female? (as in born female)

[serial]

Originally Posted by SelfProtection

http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-149.txt

The security now podcast:
http://media.GRC.com/sn/SN-149.mp3

I really like Steve's podcasts, he always tries to keep his language as simple as possible so that a wider audience can understand.

[SelfProtection]

Originally Posted by SelfProtection

http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-149.txt

In follow up the above information
http://12078.net/grcnews/article.php...feedback#72608

[Dephormation]

Meglena Kuneva's presentation in London;

http://euroalert.net/en/news.aspx?idn=7439

---------- Post added at 19:50 ---------- Previous post was at 19:46 ----------

Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo

Yes, I update Chris Williams regularly.

The 1000s of claims is a possibility. It could be that victims of the trials "could" be entitled to compensation but it does depend on other factors which is dependent on if BT are prosecuted in some way.

In my case it is crystal clear - there was quantifiable damage to my business. The ICO have given me a green light and I am encouraged after taking legal advice.

Frank if you need finance to get decent lawyers involved, I would like to contribute a small amount, and I'm sure others might too.

Its really important we take this into our own hands now.

The authorities have completely failed.

If you win your case the ICO have egg all over their faces. Lazy sods.

[Cogster]

Originally Posted by serial

The security now podcast:
http://media.GRC.com/sn/SN-149.mp3

I really like Steve's podcasts, he always tries to keep his language as simple as possible so that a wider audience can understand.

fascinating podcast.. more to come from him i think in a few weeks.. he's (steve g ) is as clearly as worried as we are.. and a powerful and recognised ally.. been following grc for years.. shields up etc

Phorm totally slated..

[mark777]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Don't forget those damages extend to all the -time- you have spent on this issue as well, including the time you have spent in the last couple of months trying to get information from ICO, any time you spent troubleshooting the problem and any time you spent buying a new computer and setting it up. All this time should be billed at your professional rate and will probably add up to a lot more than the cost of the actual computer itself.

Then you should apply for punitive damages if you feel your company was negatively effected by the situation (for example, did you lose any potential customers due to downtime, did you have any problems which were noticed by your clients which could have led to a negative opinion of your professionalism).

Don't just hold the damages at the cost of the PC, you have spent, I expect, hundreds if not thousands of hours on this issue and BT should be liable for all of that.

Alexander Hanff

How much should be added for human rights violation?

Would not an award on this issue imply a criminal action and open the floodgates to other claims?

[Frank Rizzo]

Pete,

This claim for compensation won't cost much - I have the funds / resources to handle this myself. And it is just a claim for compensation and not a full legal case against BT for the trials.

I have discussed that second point and that would be really expensive. Lets wait and see what the ICO follow up with, what the parliamentary ombudsman says, what the City of London Police conclude with Alex's case file and what Vivane Redings team do about it and worry about a privately funded case later

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by mark777

Would not an award on this issue imply a criminal action and open the floodgates to other claims?

That's a difficult one. Whereas if his claim was successful it would certainly show that he has incurred damage as a result of the trial, it would not be making a judgement as to the criminality of the trials themselves (or rather it is unlikely to).

Furthermore, I doubt very much whether BT would not settle this matter before it goes to court. Stephen could refuse to accept that settlement and still take them to court on principle but a judge is going to be far less favourable in an aggressive action if fair and just settlement has been offered by BT. Courts are supposed to be a last resort only and vexatious claims are seen in very bad light.

However, the reverse may be true. If there is a criminal judgement it could almost definitely be used in a civil case and may even be grounds for a request for default judgement. I should stress though, whereas I pay a lot of attention to law and feel I have a reasonable grasp of it, I am not a lawyer so I could be wrong in anything I have stated above. My advice would be for Stephen to contact someone like Nicholas Bohm and politely ask him for an opinion on the matter.

Alexander Hanff

[SelfProtection]

This seems to be an out of session Critical Windows XP SP2 SP3 Update so i'm post it here.


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Overview
A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your Microsoft Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.