19-06-2008, 16:40
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#9451
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
OK where are the photoshop experts?
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19-06-2008, 16:50
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#9452
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Pete
Could you please leave instructions here to install Dephormation onto FF3.
Sammy
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19-06-2008, 17:10
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#9453
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by XBNM
Im an accountant (dont boo too loudly) most of my job entails protecting small businesses from the government.
Im slightly technically literate and even i can see why phorm is bad. Legitmate business especially if its small needs only protection from the state. Large business however seems to always need protection from the consumer in the form of a regulator.
Got to wonder why HMRC has a large business group which meets regularly but no small business group. Im sure its only becasuse big business needs HMGOV's protection.
Your names not Gordon or Jacqui per chance ?
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 to the debate XBNM,
Accountant's, and their password protected websites are Unlawfully ISP/Phorm Intercepted for profit too, so feel free to add your trained eye Observations over the projected No'ers , UK regulations, and what not.
anything from a fresh perspective is always welcome, perhaps you and your other professionals (not to forget those "small businesses" you work with every day)can bring a new line of questions to light.
perhaps they might also join CF and contribute if you inform them!
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19-06-2008, 17:13
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#9454
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Services: Finding people (retired)
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
unfortunatley require it for work (sharepoint etc)
tying it down and have it fairy tight, even ff is not perfect
quick question, one i don't know the answer to, it you block sites with host file, i assume that blocks the cookies as well?
peter
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Any answer to "fairy tight" would get me banned..
However, I have discovered THIS on my travels, can the honourable members on here please tell me what is good/bad/useful about it?
Many thanks.
Oh, and we have many lurkers, please keep your answers as close to English as you can, the easier the description, the further the spread.
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19-06-2008, 17:17
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#9455
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon USA
Age: 62
Services: Comcast CATV, Comcast High-Speed Internet, Verizon DSL
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by BetBlowWhistler
If Robert Topolski wanders in the forum, give him a pat on the back for an outstanding report. Concise and very damning for NebuAD (and Phorm - this is the model they used during the 2006 trial)
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Thanks!!
--Robb Topolski (aka funchords)
Hillsboro, Oregon USA
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19-06-2008, 17:20
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Location: Manchester, UK
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 Robb!
Excellent report...
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19-06-2008, 17:24
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#9457
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Location: Hillsboro, Oregon USA
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Wildie
ain`t they been stopped over the pond while they get poked about to see what comes out and how legal they aint.
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Charter, our fourth largest ISP here, days ago announced that it delayed trials of NebuAd in 4 markets. The delay is technical and not as a result of the controversy, they say. (Be careful not to step in the pile of public-relations spin.)
--Robb Topolski
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19-06-2008, 17:25
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#9458
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by funchords
Thanks!!
--Robb Topolski (aka funchords)
Hillsboro, Oregon USA
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Great piece bud
Now if you know of more folk who can swap info on Phorm and NeBuad Stateside, this would be mutually beneficial - and our ideas and uncovered materials could work together to make our causes stronger.
What you think?
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19-06-2008, 17:28
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#9459
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol
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No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by funchords
Thanks!!
--Robb Topolski (aka funchords)
Hillsboro, Oregon USA
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Good work... and welcome to our war...
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19-06-2008, 17:30
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#9460
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Funchords...not one of them there godanm commie geetarrists is he?
I have a yamaha super flighter sf 700, btw..and welcome to our cause!
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19-06-2008, 17:31
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#9461
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No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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19-06-2008, 17:32
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
I just found a bunch of Kent videos on YouTube and I notice at the bottom of the comments there is an opportunity to respond by video on each one. I am going to have to have a shave, get my head shaved again and think about responding to them all
Some of you other folks should do the same.
Incidentally, I finally fixed my audio issues so I am thinking of doing a regular Phorm Podcast if anyone is interested?
Alexander Hanff
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Audio Podcasts are always welcome Alexander, but today Video Podcasts are the far better option for wide coverage.
great for the likes of http://current.com/ coverage and a chance to get the comments played on CurrentTV air segments....
the only real problem is a slight investment in some form of realtime Mpeg2 or Divx/Xvid (they still dont sell cheap AVC VGA/D1) USB Hardware Encoders, attached to the webcam that can stream direct to a VLC file/server.
you can do the smaller QCif/CIF video easy enough with realtime software Encoding at 300Kbit/s for instance.
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19-06-2008, 17:40
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#9463
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
Now if you know of more folk who can swap info on Phorm and NeBuad Stateside, this would be mutually beneficial - and our ideas and uncovered materials could work together to make our causes stronger.
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These do appear to be twins separated at birth. The Wikileaked Phorm results revealed that Phorm used appended javascript there as well. That was a surprise, as I had understood differently.
One of the reasons that I focused my report on the packet injection and forgery is because Phorm not only did it also, but when they switch to redirects they are going to have to perform an even more complicated series of interception and forgeries.
Packet forgery is the "smoking gun" in the Comcast case, our huge "Network Neutrality" controversy in the USA. Evesdropping and packet forgery strikes at the heart of the sanctitity of private communications and the end-to-end model that makes privacy and security work on the Internet.
If these two companies are linked somehow, what one does, the other will eventually do. If Phorm is going from spoofing the end of a HTTP/TCP conversation to the middle of one, eventually so will NebuAd. It will be seen as an even more severe intrusion onto the integrity of the network link, and hopefully stop it before its tried.
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19-06-2008, 17:43
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#9464
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by vicz
OK where are the photoshop experts?
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Is this the kind of thing you were looking for?
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19-06-2008, 17:49
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#9465
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Both bad guys hitting the mainstream media in the US (at last)
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...-your-privacy/
Oh confusing - page is headed June 19 but article dated April 8 - still interesting though.
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