Will Virgin Media Ever Increase Upload Rate

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

I can see your point but at the rate they're going they won't have many real loyal customers left, just those that use their connection for the occasional email and light browsing.

I would refer to them as tiscali the second myself, but as of yet I haven't had any problems despite being slightly cheesed off over STM. But unless they buck up their ideas, I might move to Be, even if my line is quite far from the exchange. I might get 3Mbps but at least it would be unrestricted 24/7. Not to mention cheaper too...

I know of many loyal customers (15+ years) who have given up and left for the likes of Be or Sky, you know things are getting bad when the customers who have been around the longest and given you the biggest profit up and leave you.

Be are a great company, have a great business stratergy, you'll never see traffic management on them seeing as they dont oversubcribe and if something is nearing full capacity they dont allow signups until upgrades are done, VM should take a note from their books, imo.

I remember being with tiscali, i thought it was the worst experience of my life at the time, then when NTL because VM i knew what true annoyance was.

STM just doesnt work how it is supposed to eitherway, if i got stm'd my connection went to hell, pings shot through the roof, sites wouldnt load, it was worse than dial up!

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by TraxData

On the bright side they are -thinking- of charging more and removing stm, but still with the same pathetic upload speed.

Even if STM is removed i wouldnt bother, especially if you like to multitask.

The only time VM will remove STM is when allot is put in place.

Originally Posted by GreyWolf

The only time VM will remove STM is when allot is put in place.

LOL thanks for cheering me up

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by TraxData

LOL thanks for cheering me up

You're welcome.

[|Kippa|]

Trax Data you seem to be a bit of a techy and knowledgeable person. All this farting about with STM and the implementation of DOCSIS 3 and the costs involved, can you see things possibly getting any better in the long run?

[Rankrotten]

Verizon Cable in the US is making it's top tier 50Meg down / 20 Meg up...

Virgin take note.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ios-party.html

[colin-bennett]

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

People have been asking this for a long time, and the only response people seem to give is its either:

1. Too expensive, since upstream costs VM a lot more than downstream
2. The technology isn't capable of it (rubbish, DOCSIS1 can do 11Mbps just fine)
3. They just don't want to

From what we have heard, the 50Mbps tier will have 2.5Mbps upload which is outrageous. It should be at least 5Mbps and better still, 10Mbps.

As a web developer I do a lot of uploading to my server and I find it a huge struggle with such a poor upstream speed. Unfortunately due to my distance from the exchange (3.5KM) ADSL would be even worse so I'm best off on VM for the time being. If they would just get rid of STM and double the upload speed I'd have no complaints.

As a web developer get on to business accounts as you clearly using the internet for business. Do not expect the same level of service from residential account.

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Originally Posted by Rankrotten

Verizon Cable in the US is making it's top tier 50Meg down / 20 Meg up...

Virgin take note.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ios-party.html

For goodness sake
Have you not seen the charges ??????????????????????????
Lets hope Virgin do NOT take note

[broadbandbug]

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

People have been asking this for a long time, and the only response people seem to give is its either:

1. Too expensive, since upstream costs VM a lot more than downstream
2. The technology isn't capable of it (rubbish, DOCSIS1 can do 11Mbps just fine)
3. They just don't want to

From what we have heard, the 50Mbps tier will have 2.5Mbps upload which is outrageous. It should be at least 5Mbps and better still, 10Mbps.

As a web developer I do a lot of uploading to my server and I find it a huge struggle with such a poor upstream speed. Unfortunately due to my distance from the exchange (3.5KM) ADSL would be even worse so I'm best off on VM for the time being. If they would just get rid of STM and double the upload speed I'd have no complaints.

DoCSIS 1 can do 10Mb/s channels in the upstream.. However you share this channel with around 100 other users.. So if you were given 2Mb/s Upstream.. You would just have a very congested port!
It is not until VM go to DoCSIS 2 and/DoCSIS 3 that there is any chance of increased upstream speeds.
If they got rid of STM, doubled your upstream speeds. .Would you pay double the price

[Richy99]

Originally Posted by dcclanuk

What is the upload on a 2mb connection?

Mine is 200k:

Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 2048000
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 200000


Is that correct? or should it be 256k?

200 is correct for the 2meg service

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

For goodness sake
Have you not seen the charges ??????????????????????????
Lets hope Virgin do NOT take note

And £47 for 50/1.5Mbps VM are offering is good is it ????????

Especially when it comes with STM and port/application throttling....

[Nicosia]

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

For goodness sake
Have you not seen the charges ??????????????????????????
Lets hope Virgin do NOT take note

FIOS was already available at 50/20Mbps speeds, but only in some areas. The changes will see it available everywhere Verizon offers FIOS. Those lucky enough to reside in New York or Virginia and willing to sign up for a full year will wind up spending $89.95 a month; those elsewhere will be hit with a $139.95 monthly tab. A 20/20Mbps service will be rolled out at the same time; this will replace the prior offerings of 30/15Mbps and 15/15Mbps. At the bottom end, the 5/2Mbps will be gone, replaced with a 10/2Mbps tier. A 20/5Mbps offering will round out the service. The offer only applies to new customers, but the remainder should be able to upgrade the next time their contract rolls around.

but thats in dollars in GBP thats 71 for a 50/20 service with no caps and for the customers paying 89.95..about £46,thats not bad at all for those who will be paying the 89 dollars per month

man virgin media upload stinks, where can i apply for the Managing Director for the company....if i toook over, vm would be top notch...

Originally Posted by broadbandbug

DoCSIS 1 can do 10Mb/s channels in the upstream.. However you share this channel with around 100 other users.. So if you were given 2Mb/s Upstream.. You would just have a very congested port!
It is not until VM go to DoCSIS 2 and/DoCSIS 3 that there is any chance of increased upstream speeds.
If they got rid of STM, doubled your upstream speeds. .Would you pay double the price

It doesnt need to be double the price, if VM didnt over subscribe/leave their infrastructure to grow old/fail/turn to crap.

I'd happily pay £50/month for a 50/20 connection

Oh wait, i £50/month already for better than that

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by TraxData

I'd happily pay £50/month for a 50/20 connection

Same here. Infact I'd be more than happy paying £60 a month for a service like that...But thats just me.

[AbyssUnderground]

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

As a web developer get on to business accounts as you clearly using the internet for business. Do not expect the same level of service from residential account.

Its not a business, its a hobby, but a very serious hobby at that hence why I need the upload. Residential vs Business broadband is no more reliable you know... My Residential has a 99.2% uptime according to my logging ever since I got it over 6 years back. You can hardly call that bad. Its not about the reliability anyway its about the speed, which is no different on business than it is on residential, and both are subject to STM, so its pointless anyway!

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