Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[Phormic Acid]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

Thank you I see I am not the only one against this CAMPAIGN OF TERROR against LEGITIMATE business and INNOCENT SHAREHOLDERS

I don’t think there’s been much of a ‘campaign of terror’ against Phorm shareholders here. I believe Phorm shareholders normally go to Interactive Investor to be insulted. It’s not our fault that Phorm are a one-trick pony. Anyone who invests on AIM needs to be aware that most start-ups have one product and one product only. If development of that product progresses smoothly, the share price rises, sometimes dramatically. However, it needs only one serious problem to arise to see that price nosedive.

The concerns of most of the posters on this thread have been in two areas. The first is that Webwise marks the start of a massive, yet stealthy, invasion of people’s on-line privacy. The second is that Webwise will be dumping a whole load of technical problems into the heart of the Internet.

[AlexanderHanff]

Oh well I can't do a video for YouTube because I can't find an app in Linux which will capture both audio and video at the same time from my webcam and I don't own a camcorder.

I can do audio only podcasts though I will have a crack at one over the next couple of days.

Alexander Hanff

[bluecar1]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

https://nodpi.org/2008/06/18/material-change/

Alexander Hanff

alex there is one problem with BT, they take mine via my phone bill not a separate DD, i suspect this will be the same for a lot of people, which makes it more difficult to stop them taking the money.

it would be a case of having to claim it back in the small claims court i suspect.

peter

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Originally Posted by antihanff.com

1.) Phorm helps the internet community by making niche sites previous thought of as unattractive to advertisers attractive not because of their content but because of their visitors

2.) Phorm protects privacy because they do not store history data

3.) Phorm offer a real choise whereas other advertisers who use java and the like to allow cross domain transfer of information do it all behimnd the scenes without informing users or giving a choise. Phorm offer a central off switch

4.) Phorm will actuall cause less advertising and an increase in the advertising value of real estate

5.) Phorm will help small companies promote themselves in a cost effective manor

AH at last we see the old phorm PR Spin

if you have read all this forum as you claim you will have seen these point have all been discreditied on here and by academics with sound knowledge of the subject


as to helping the small website owner advertise, why should i bother as you do not publish the rates paid to the website (not even a gestimate) and the cost of processing the paymayents for me would probably come to more than the revenue, but i have notice since changing the front page of my website to include anti-phorm information and google picked it up my hit rate has doubled so thanks for that phorm

peter

[roadrunner69]

Originally Posted by Florence

Ok I have one night off and you all get to be phormed baited without me some friends you lot are. Right all thoses that fed the troll you get time out to think about the bait you bit on.
Me I just getting started

Last night was a great release and brought quite a few previously quiet members to the debate, well worthwhile i'd say.

I couldn't help thinking last night, Florence will be kicking herself in the morning for missing this

[BetBlowWhistler]

Originally Posted by bluecar1

alex there is one problem with BT, they take mine via my phone bill not a separate DD, i suspect this will be the same for a lot of people, which makes it more difficult to stop them taking the money.

it would be a case of having to claim it back in the small claims court i suspect.

peter

You could always get your billing mechanism changed back to paper billing (as opposed to Direct Swindle) and *then* you could withhold the necessary payment (i.e. pay only the part which represents your phone bill).

And, damn. One early night and I miss the fireworks. 33 years old and posting like a 13 year old? chuckle? I nearly soiled myself

If anyone pro-Phorm is still reading this thread (of course you are ) then you need to realise that this protest is about a lot more than targetted advertising. That's just the turd on the christmas cake. The offal filled sputem that is the cake is that *everything* you do online can be intercepted and manipulated with this technology.

Taking a stand against BT/Phorm at this present juncture is to take a stand for freedom. Nothing less. This is why we aren't going away, or becoming 'less vocal'. I've spoken to some old fogies about this stuff (who admittedly don't even use the internet) and even they could see that this was something truly insidious and should be stopped.

Troll on.

[Deko]

Hmm was antihanf the guy who runs britishbulls thats based out of turkey.

gutted.

[Dephormation]

Phorm.com deported?

Its gone back to the USA...

See http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...rm.com&probe=1

Pete.

[bluecar1]

Originally Posted by Dephormation

Phorm.com deported?

Its gone back to the USA...

See http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...rm.com&probe=1

Pete.

love it, they are back with there own kind look at http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted...38.255.255.255 and look at the site names "xanga", and various pron sites

peter

[Dephormation]

Check this out;

Sites with longest running systems at Performance Systems International Inc.

They are in good company.


Update; Peter beat me to it

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More info;

Also Webwise.com, OIX.com, OIX.net, Webwise.net...

Beware, Netcraft report bt.webwise.com is still resolving to Gyron (89.145.112.32).

Check this out - these are all recently placed vacancies 13th - 17th June

I presume that they've recently lost quite a few key members of staff!
(which kind of validates the info the "cancer man" gave you Alex)

It's hard to believe that they're creating new positions

Technical Specialist, Ad Operations
Media Inventory Analyst
Systems Administrator
Product Manager
Product Marketing Manager
Project Management Office (PMO) Administrator

Monster.co.uk

[bluecar1]

Originally Posted by Paul Delaney

Check this out - these are all recently placed vacancies 13th - 17th June

I presume that they've recently lost quite a few key members of staff!
(which kind of validates the info the "cancer man" gave you Alex)

It's hard to believe that they're creating new positions

Technical Specialist, Ad Operations
Media Inventory Analyst
Systems Administrator
Product Manager
Product Marketing Manager
Project Management Office (PMO) Administrator

Monster.co.uk

would prefer to see one for ceo (phorm) and CEO (BT)

[Deko]

Is it cheaper to host in the states, or is this the retreat of phorm.

or something more insidious like outside the reach of uk law ?

[NTLVictim]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Oh well I can't do a video for YouTube because I can't find an app in Linux which will capture both audio and video at the same time from my webcam and I don't own a camcorder.

I can do audio only podcasts though I will have a crack at one over the next couple of days.

Alexander Hanff

Could you run a windows app under WINE?

[BetBlowWhistler]

Originally Posted by Deko

Is it cheaper to host in the states, or is this the retreat of phorm.

or something more insidious like outside the reach of uk law ?

In the ISP stakes, PSINet are the muppet equivalent of gonzo (at least they were here in the Uk before they split, and my dealings with the US variant didn't exactly inspire me either).

I'm almost tempted to go for the sysadmin job. I wonder if they would practice discrimination based on my personal opinions of their business model?

[Privacy_Matters]

Originally Posted by Paul Delaney

Check this out - these are all recently placed vacancies 13th - 17th June

I presume that they've recently lost quite a few key members of staff!
(which kind of validates the info the "cancer man" gave you Alex)

It's hard to believe that they're creating new positions

Technical Specialist, Ad Operations
Media Inventory Analyst
Systems Administrator
Product Manager
Product Marketing Manager
Project Management Office (PMO) Administrator

Monster.co.uk

To replace staff who are unhappy with the entire concept?

I've seen the majority of these positions advertised for quite a while, and theres more on linked-in too.