Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 621

Tharrick · 19-06-2008, 00:19

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Originally Posted by antihanff.com

Just reat inteactive investor thread and see who is being abusive to people? And a few time s on this thread too. One rule for you guys and anyone else bets BULLLIES into SUBMISSION

I'd rather think of us as the people who decided to take a stand against the bullying in place by major corporations that view us as stock and products, and against the government that lets that happen. We're the kids who said 'never again' one day, and put the bullies in hospital :P

Bonglet · 19-06-2008, 00:20

Hamster = kent, from what you posted you sure sound like him

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Can you not see by the size of the vote and the general consensus of the people that no one wants to be spied on no matter how small anyone claims it to be especially for something as advertising which we get bombarded with everywhere, and im 100% certain i dont want my children to inheret being spied on in such a way.

Stuart · 19-06-2008, 00:20

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Originally Posted by antihanff.com

DId you just breach the data protection act you shouldnt be looking at my IP. JAIL!

No. When you signed up you agreed we would use monitoring tools (as, IIRC, is clearly stated in our terms and conditions). I have published no personally identifiable info (unless you are BT Central's only user, in which case they are in trouble with or without Phorm).

antihanff2 · 19-06-2008, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Campaign of terror? Grow up.

I am 33 years old an you are obviously sucked into this campaign against Phorm based on WHAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE

Ravenheart · 19-06-2008, 00:20

aww didums, poor BT and Kent "magic beans" Ertugrul don't like it when people stand in their way of implementing the nasty little spyware system, welcome to the school of hard knocks.

Privacy_Matters · 19-06-2008, 00:22

Ok Guys

Lets cool it

Its obvious thes two morons were set loose by Phorm or BT to stir things up.

Ignore their posts

roadrunner69 · 19-06-2008, 00:22

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Originally Posted by antihanff.com

I JUST DONT GET WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ON ABOUT.

Whilst I see that BT and Phorm have been dispicable in the trials by not informing users and totally disregarding the customers interests I don't see why the issue of targeted advertising itself is such a problem to you all.

Its not the end product of targeted advertising that has made the good people on here so mad. Its the means of getting the profiles, by intercepting and analysing our internet traffic without our consent.

We have no choice in whether we want to be profiled...even if we opt out our traffic will still be intercepted. Its time to call a halt to spying for profit, at least where nothing of ANY use is offered in return and where our data is stolen without choice.

If you really have read the entire thread and are still convinced that this is a good thing then either you are an:

1. employee of phorm or associates
2. investor who stands to lose money on this venture
3 moron

so which is it?

Tharrick · 19-06-2008, 00:23

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Originally Posted by antihanff2

I am 33 years old an you are obviously sucked into this campaign against Phorm based on WHAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE

Actually, most of us have read the patent applications for the system, and know for ourselves what it's capable of, which is why we protest against it.

AlexanderHanff · 19-06-2008, 00:23

This is too funny. You are all my minions and do everything I tell you, at least that is what Mr antiHanff would have us believe. Maybe if I have such power over people I should run for Prime Minister, I doubt I could do a worse job than the current idiot sitting in the chair at #10.

Alexander Hanff

JackSon · 19-06-2008, 00:23

So you're avoiding that I see. Gave you a chance to ammend your comment about trusted privacy think tanks being branded by yourself as amateurs (despite many of them being professional in their field, Nocholas Bohm springs to mind) but it's evident you wanted to gloss over that.

Interestingly though, on your stance of the 'claims' that the process is illegal is reasonable, they are indeed only claims at this stage. Much like they are only claims from others saying that it isn't illegal. The reason of course it will only be claimed until a court makes a ruling on the matter. However, until or if that event occurs, we only have claims coming from either side.

But it is interesting to note, the claims of Phorm / Webwise being legal seem to originate from the people within its operation (Phorm, BT etc, investors etc.) and the claims of it being illegal come from IT professionals, privacy and security advocates, human rights groups amongst others. Now call me a cynnic, when someone who is interested in only their own personal gain has an opinion that is in conflict with an opinion form another person who has the interests of community in mind, I don't have to think very hard before whom I sway towards.

NewsreadeR · 19-06-2008, 00:24

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Originally Posted by antihanff2

I am 33 years old an you are obviously sucked into this campaign against Phorm based on WHAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE

Welcome aboard, thanks for livening up my Wednesday night. Between the two of you, I can see we are in for some fun tonight.

OldBear · 19-06-2008, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters

Ok Guys

Lets cool it

Its obvious thes two morons were set loose by Phorm or BT to stir things up.

Ignore their posts

Totally agree; I would ignore this moron/these morons completely.

Tharrick · 19-06-2008, 00:25

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

This is too funny. You are all my minions and do everything I tell you, at least that is what Mr antiHanff would have us believe. Maybe if I have such power over people I should run for Prime Minister, I doubt I could do a worse job than the current idiot sitting the chair at #10.

Alexander Hanff

Of course, my Lord and Master. Which reminds me, I finished hacking into Tesco's bank accounts and stealing all their profits for the last two years, which corrupt and evil corporation would you like me to target next?

OldBear · 19-06-2008, 00:27

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Originally Posted by Tharrick

Of course, my Lord and Master. Which reminds me, I finished hacking into Tesco's bank accounts and stealing all their profits for the last two years, which corrupt and evil corporation would you like me to target next?

I would suggest Sainsbury's, but I see you've already been there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7461526.stm

OB

Privacy_Matters · 19-06-2008, 00:28

Alex ignore them

they are trying to discredit you

THIS IS PHORM!!! Definately!!!

EDIT

CF ADMIN, please check their IP and check against Phorm....