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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 My suspicion is this was a cock up on the system.  BT have verified themselves that the trials were carried out in complete secrecy with the specific purpose of making sure the public did not know anything about it.
 
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			18-06-2008, 21:57
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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			18-06-2008, 22:11
			
			
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			18-06-2008, 22:21
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I've just put a poster together, any recommendations on changes welcome   
Link removed while i fix some typo's on the doc :P
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			18-06-2008, 22:22
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 Excellent video, but please correct:
 
"If your affected" to "If you're affected" at 1:31.
 
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			18-06-2008, 23:17
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Excellent video, but please correct: 
"If your affected" to "If you're affected" at 1:31.
 
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 Oops, thanks for spotting that, I'm a complete   
Anyway, it's now corrected, unfortunately you can't edit vids once on youtube so here is the new link and I'll pull the old video in a while:
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			18-06-2008, 23:43
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			A lot has been said about being fair, and a lot has been said about not being insulting to others on this forum. I have taken the time to read EVERY post on this thread, including most of the references. 
 
I JUST DONT GET WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ON ABOUT. 
 
Whilst I see that BT and Phorm have been dispicable in the trials by not informing users and totally disregarding the customers interests I don't see why the issue of targeted advertising itself is such a problem to you all. 
 
To be honest I think you are a BUNCH OF BULLIES led by your BULLY MASTER and YOU ARE ALL FOLLOWING YOUR LEADER WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THIS. 
 
Why do I think that?  Well much has been said about not insulting people on this forum but it seems fair game to PERSONALLY insult the few pro-form protestors who post here and bully them off the site. 
 
Many posters have also jumped onto share dealing forums to BULLY the people there. 
 
YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. 
 
If you dont like something then register your displike. But to continue to harass people is harassment under law. 
 
The phorm/webwise system has to be illegal, why should I believe a bunch of ranting amateurs? 
 
You make so much of site owners copyright WELL JUST LOOK AT WHAT ALEX HANFF THINKS BY GOOGLING COPYRIGHT ALEX HANFF.   
 
The law applies when you want it and not when you dont. 
 
HAVENT YOU GOT ANTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME? 
 
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A JOB? 
 
I cant wait to see 2 or 3 people "protesting" next week. 
 
I cant wait for your undemocratic forum host to delete this post like he did several others judging by the inconsistencies and posts. 
 
To repeat I READ EVERY POST ON THIS FORUM.  IT TOOK ME 10 DAY! 
 
I even read most of the references and I cant see what you all on about.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Judging by your spelling mistakes and grammar, I would suggest that you are of primary school age and, therefore, it is way past your bedtime.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Judging by your spelling mistakes and grammar, I would suggest that you are of primary school age and, therefore, it is way past your bedtime. 
			
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You've read all the posts in this thread and you can't see what we're on about? 
 
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 So much to pick, but so little time (because I do have a job in which to first have a good nights sleep for).  So I will just take one piece of your missive for now, my favourite part.
 
It does make me smile that you consider the Foundation for Information Policy Research and the Open Rights Group plus all associated academics of the more renkown universities as 'ranting amateurs'.
 
However, if I am permitted to play devil's advocate and ask you which area of this whole debacle that you don't get?  I will admire that, it takes courage to put your hand up and say "I don't understand this, can someone helo me?"  More courage than to shun the entire debate beacuse it is either over your grasp, or, worse still, becasue you have vested interests in it succeeding.  
 
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To repeat I READ EVERY POST ON THIS FORUM.  IT TOOK ME 10 DAY! 
 
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 It sounds like you need to find a pro-phorm thread in order to be amongst like-minded people. It will take you longer than 10 days to find one though.   
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			Actually, that is really impressive thinking about it.  He read the entire forum in just 10 days.  Impressive, this sites been active for years!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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