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[Privacy_Matters]

Peter

I've noticed that my ubr had changed several times during today. (sorry not noted [slaps face very hard]).

Keep an eye out for it.

Sammy

[wecpc]

Originally Posted by bluecar1

been the same on bt the last week, getting intermittent page not found errors, refresh and it comes in, or pages hang part loaded then refresh and come in quick,

anyone on talk talk ? or others to see if this is bt,vm,tt only?

peter

just had one of those errors as i posted this

I am getting the same problems and I am on O2 (Non LLU) but I am still using the BT/Yahoo home page on IE7 as I have got used to the layout as I have everything to hand which I use regularly. I did download and install FF 2.0 but I did not like it and in desperation I even tried the Beta 1 of IE8 but that would not work at all, so I went back to IE7. Maybe I should try FF 3.0 which should be out by now.

Colin

[Wildie]

web pages last week was blank untill a refresh and some even timing out, also notice the trace routes are different again compared to last week and the one before that less hops now last week more hops inside the bt network.

[phormwatch]

>Could we use this for a URL to a page aimed at webmasters?

How do you mean? In what sense?

>Would they look it up?

It would appear in their logs, yes. Anyone who has access to the server logs could/would
see it. Anyone who doesn't probably won't.

[bluecar1]

Originally Posted by Wildie

web pages last week was blank untill a refresh and some even timing out, also notice the trace routes are different again compared to last week and the one before that less hops now last week more hops inside the bt network.

hmm, 6 hops inside BT now rather than 5 last week

am in brum tonight but the hotel is BT as the router is a home hub sat in reception

12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.32.86.13
12 ms 12 ms * 217.41.216.1
10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.41.172.66
11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 217.41.172.118
13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 217.41.172.54
12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.32.85.50

bt playing hide and seek again?
peter

[mark777]

Originally Posted by phormwatch

>Could we use this for a URL to a page aimed at webmasters?

How do you mean? In what sense?

>Would they look it up?

It would appear in their logs, yes. Anyone who has access to the server logs could/would
see it. Anyone who doesn't probably won't.

What I meant was if webmasters saw a string like :-

"http://WhyPhormIsBadForWebsites,com/"

In the logs, would they be likely to visit it? If so, that site could explain the issues from a siteowners point of view. e.g. copyright, takes people to competitors etc.

It would be a very easy way to spread the word.

[Wildie]

Originally Posted by bluecar1

hmm, 6 hops inside BT now rather than 5 last week

am in brum tonight but the hotel is BT as the router is a home hub sat in reception

12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.32.86.13
12 ms 12 ms * 217.41.216.1
10 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.41.172.66
11 ms 12 ms 11 ms 217.41.172.118
13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 217.41.172.54
12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 217.32.85.50

bt playing hide and seek again?
peter

I`ll see your 6 and raise 7
3 25 ms 25 ms 23 ms 217.47.73.13
4 26 ms 25 ms 24 ms 217.47.73.170
5 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 217.41.176.17
6 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms 217.41.176.114
7 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 217.41.176.58
8 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms 217.47.110.50
9 26 ms 24 ms 25 ms 217.32.171.233

[phormwatch]

Originally Posted by mark777

What I meant was if webmasters saw a string like :-

"http://WhyPhormIsBadForWebsites,com/"

In the logs, would they be likely to visit it? If so, that site could explain the issues from a siteowners point of view. e.g. copyright, takes people to competitors etc.

It would be a very easy way to spread the word.

Well, yes, possibly. Perhaps the more curious admins might. It's not a way to reach a huge audience, but we may a few dozen people interested that way.

[popper]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I like to think of them as my very own "Smoking Man" like the dude in the X-Files who is always helping Fox Mulder.

Alexander Hanff

lets just hope he/she doesnt become "TheWickerMan"
on the sacrifical alter to DPi Interception and the persuit of profit and power at ANY COST (as long as its not theirs).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wic...281973_film%29



---------- Post added at 04:53 ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 ----------

Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo

Googling for "Ertugrul" to find out about connections with the Times.

Nothing found yet but have found an interesting article from the NY Times in 1999. Apologies if this has already been posted amongst the 605 pages already.

Lifetimes of Memories Preserved on CD-ROM's by Kent
Quote:
The company, Life.com, has recently released a CD-ROM called My Life that encourages people to assemble their memories, thoughts and long-held secrets into a multimedia memoir.

My Life asks people to select a electronic cards from 230 categories, like ''Creativity'' or ''As a child.'' Each card poses questions that range from practical to probing. One asks: ''What is the flat-out stupidest thing you have ever done?''

Quote:
''We went through a lot of research to make the questions interesting in and of themselves,'' said Kent Ertugrul, the company's founder

interesting,no matter what cash/power generating idea's he dreams up over the years, it always seems to come back to collecting other peoples secrets and personal data for his own nefarious use.

you might start wondering what kind of private and personal infomation he managed to get out of all those rich people that took his old fly in a fighter jet business plan.

[Anonymouse]

Originally Posted by popper

OT BR, function creep again
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/17/eu_pnr_warning/

Yes, the Irish really did the whole of Europe a big favour there - good show!

This isn't quite OP, because DPI threatens our freedom re privacy and the Lisbon Treaty threatens our freedom to self-govern...however badly.

[warescouse]

Alex, PM

[bluecar1]

very worrying development in sweden

http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?.../06/17/0126243

sweden are looking for sweeping power to tap any communications that crosses their border (E-mail, fax, telephone, web, SMS, etc. 24/7) WITHOUT A WARRANT

there is another article today "understanding privacy" may be of interest as well

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/17/1857256

[icsys]

Originally Posted by bluecar1

very worrying development in sweden

http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?.../06/17/0126243

sweden are looking for sweeping power to tap any communications that crosses their border (E-mail, fax, telephone, web, SMS, etc. 24/7) WITHOUT A WARRANT

That news actually broke two weeks ago but was not picked up on by the mainstream media.
Much the same as Phorm wasn't picked up on by the mainstream media over here. Until the anti-phorm drum was beaten loudly.
Strange coincidences? Government hush hush tactics? Conspiracy theories?

[Privacy_Matters]

Pete

Check the details below, are these Dephormation Cookies? They look different, Pete (VM Connection for both):

(From VM NG)
>uid
>RespectMyPrivacy033322||
>a.webwise.net
>/services/
>Any type of connection
>08 January 3000 00:00:00

(from my PC)
a.webwise.net

Name: uid
Content: RespectMyPrivacy852219||
Host: a.webwise.net
Path: /services/
Send for: any type of connection
Expires: 01 January 2038 00:00:00

Have you changed the format with the latest release?

[BetBlowWhistler]

More slogans..

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Just say no.

Defend your right to Privacy!
Stop BT/Phorm!

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<ok this one was a joke>

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just saw this on the front page of bbc news for England
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7460270.stm