Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[jelv]

Originally Posted by tdadyslexia

How do I Block www.webwise.com I have added to my Hosts File:

 
89.145.112.31  www.webwise.com
<snip>

Watt am I doing wrong?

Geeeeeeeee kant this site be killed.

Replace all the IP addresses by 127.0.0.1

[BetBlowWhistler]

Originally Posted by jelv

Replace all the IP addresses by 127.0.0.1

You could have mentioned what the hosts file does

tdadyslexia, the hosts file acts as a local dns and entries in it take priority over any you might look up from external dns. I hate saying dns servers, it's just plain wrong

Just in case anyone reading doesn't know where 127.0.01 is, it's home
As in the old techie joke 'there's no place like 127.0.0.1' or even
'there are 10 kinds of people in the world - those that understand binary and those that don't'

[jelv]

Originally Posted by BetBlowWhistler

I hate saying dns servers, it's just plain wrong

I guess No. 2 on your pet hates list is MAC code!

[Dephormation]

Originally Posted by R Jones

Now be realistic. Time in Phormland runs differently. The BT trials are due in March 2008, end March 2008, April 2008, by May 26th, this summer, "soon". So TalkTalk are well on target.

Joke Alert: K*nt Ergrutlu is pioneering the flying pigs business... did you know?

The name of the company is

Spoiler: 

Pigs etc

[campaignerssuck]

Originally Posted by BetBlowWhistler

You could have mentioned what the hosts file does

tdadyslexia, the hosts file acts as a local dns and entries in it take priority over any you might look up from external dns. I hate saying dns servers, it's just plain wrong

Just in case anyone reading doesn't know where 127.0.01 is, it's home
As in the old techie joke 'there's no place like 127.0.0.1' or even
'there are 10 kinds of people in the world - those that understand binary and those that don't'

Why dns servers wrong? DNS is protocol - Domain Name System.

Nothing wrong with Domain Name System servers.

This campaign is a joke. How many of you actually understand the technology and see how Phorm is actually taking good steps to stop a copy of everything you do being stored.

Added my voice to the survey.

[jelv]

Guys don't rise to it. This is obviously a new tactic by the PhormPRTeam!

[vicz]

Originally Posted by campaignerssuck

...

This campaign is a joke. How many of you actually understand the technology and see how Phorm is actually taking good steps to stop a copy of everything you do being stored.

Added my voice to the survey.

Most of us understand the technology only too well.....the only people who know what phorm does is phorm themselves - includes you does it

[Dephormation]

7 page whopper going out this morning to Ms Reding.

My mother doesn't get letters that long.

And my wife wants to know why I'm writing letters to a woman in Europe at midnight.

Originally Posted by campaignerssuck

This campaign is a joke. How many of you actually understand the technology and see how Phorm is actually taking good steps to stop a copy of everything you do being stored.

Rubbish - All Phorm is doing is attempting to make money out of people's surfing habits. This is all they care about.

Also - This campaign is not a joke at all - do you honestly see everyone here laughing and joking about it?

You are entitled to your views but with such a questionable username would could ask that you have only come here to stir and cause trouble, which BTW, I will not stand for on this forum.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by campaignerssuck

Why dns servers wrong? DNS is protocol - Domain Name System.

Nothing wrong with Domain Name System servers.

This campaign is a joke. How many of you actually understand the technology and see how Phorm is actually taking good steps to stop a copy of everything you do being stored.

I understand perfectly how DNS works.. I could probably even write an essay on it. Not going to though.

What I don't understand is how someone storing details of people's surfing habits is somehow enhancing their privacy.

Yes, I know about the anonymising process, but this isn't as anonymous as people have claimed. At some point the system *does* link your "random" (note: Depending on the process used for generation, these may not be as random as you think) id with your IP. If it did not, it would not be able to serve you ads.

Upon investigation this morning it would seem one person from the same organisation, not saying its Phorm or associated agencies, have come here to just spoil the poll. These votes have been tracked and have now been erased.

With the following now happening - I have now decided it best to close the poll, so thank you for your votes but the poll is now closed.

From day one of the poll - It said 95% voted Yes. It's been consistent throughout. The outcome of this and number of votes is nothing near what I expected. But the overall result is clear:-

Virgin Media Broadband Customers don't want Phorm.

[AlexanderHanff]

Nothing new there Mick, Phorm appear to have teams of people monitor /. and Digg too to bury any stories which get posted there. I think that probably explains why their PR teams have been so quiet, they must have been too busy trying to block the news getting out on major tech sites.

Alexander Hanff

[Rchivist]

Originally Posted by Dephormation

7 page whopper going out this morning to Ms Reding.

My mother doesn't get letters that long.

And my wife wants to know why I'm writing letters to a woman in Europe at midnight.

Only 7 pages - call that a letter? should have seen mine to ICO - now THAT WAS a letter. (Crocodile Dundee in New York)

[popper]

Originally Posted by Hank

Letter done, in an envelope, to post tomorrow. Agree with you Alexander and the other posters here... snail mail is best for these things... Hank

OC many people also have old Fax/modems sitting around at the back of their desks forgotten, perhaps its also time to dig up that old FAX software and also use that option if your willing/wanting to put your thoughts down on real paper.

you can also walk into your local library and use their Fax machines for a few pennys if you prefer to do that, or simply dont have regular access to the web at home but still want to do your part.

By post : Viviane Reding
Member of the European Commission
BE-1049 Brussels
Belgium

Via e-mail : viviane.reding@ec.europa.eu

By fax : +32 2 299.92.01

BTW, does anyone know or been in contact with this Baroness Vadera
in the ElReg story.

if the Govt are willing to publicly back the toothless Ofcom when it comes to these big plans, why doesnt it also publicly step up for the UK interception for profit ,one way or the other!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/11/eu_regulator/
"Government backs Ofcom against EU regulator plan

The UK government is banding together with France and Germany to reiterate its opposition to the idea of an EU-wide regulator, so beloved of communications commissioner Viviane Reding.
The details come in a written statement from Baroness Vadera, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business and Competitiveness, who makes it abundantly clear where the British government stands:

...the Government have never been convinced of the case for a new pan-EU regulator ... You will be reassured to know that none of my opposite numbers in other member states, or indeed the views from the European Parliament, support the Commission’s original proposals.
....

---------- Post added at 11:32 ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 ----------

Originally Posted by SimonHickling

Just out of interest has anyone got any more info on the Talk Talk switch on in June? I may have missed something on the thread when I slept (or blinked )

Or contact details, so I can ask them the same questions I've asked BT? Seems a shame to not involve them.

there you go , and they thought they had been forgotten by the Anti-interception for profit end users

---------- Post added at 11:35 ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 ----------

Originally Posted by Dephormation

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...php?p=23967088

I can confirm that as of June 2008 we will begin to offer our customers Phorm and Webwise services. This new service will help protect our customers from fraudulent websites and provides them with targeting advertising based on their web activity.

For further information please go to www.webwise.com.

Yours sincerely,

Heather Lunt
TalkTalk Customer Relations

have we had any TalkTalk customers looking at their Cookies and routing etc , they did say they were going to totally seperate the opted-in users from the opted-out, so as not to touch the DPI kit and not get collected, but has anyone looked to be sure?

also any current quotes or new information from the TalkTalk executive or personel about how they intent to get around the inlawful copying/Derivative work , or perhaps pay the owners for the use of their datastreams....

[Anonymouse]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Nothing new there Mick, Phorm appear to have teams of people monitor /. and Digg too to bury any stories which get posted there. I think that probably explains why their PR teams have been so quiet, they must have been too busy trying to block the news getting out on major tech sites.

Alexander Hanff

The key word being "trying" - they're too late, ha ha ha!

They obviously don't realise that their underhand behaviour only confirms our stance - if it was all above board, they wouldn't need to use such tactics. So although it's against the grain for such a confirmed pessimist as myself to say this, we might actually win this one - especially with the European Commission finally taking the proper interest.