Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[Tharrick]

Update, got a grip now, THE CLASH: I FOUGHT THE LAW now ringing in my ears, BT Directors would like it

Try Judas Priest: Breaking the Law :P

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Send your letters directly to her office at the EU Commission:

Viviane Reding
Member of the European Commission
BE-1049 Brussels
Belgium


Alexander Hanff

Letter done, in an envelope, to post tomorrow. Agree with you Alexander and the other posters here... snail mail is best for these things... Hank

[davidb24v]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

And yes, everyone should send a postal letter to Commissioner Reding applauding the news and reiterating their concerns over ICO's inaction on this issue and the wider issue of Phorm as a whole.

We have the ball in our court now, we are very much in the game and we need to take advantage of this news to make sure the Commissioner knows that this is a major public issue and not just a bunch of geeks whining.

Please, if ever there was a crucial time to write a real letter, now IS that time.

Alexander Hanff

Noted Alex. I will write a letter (or letters) now. Thank you for all your efforts on this - with a following wind I would have done more but work and life (what? there's a difference?) intervene as ever. I do need to write something up to get a system that will connect to "a government network", er, "accredited". First entry in the "risk register"? Step forward BT and any ISP stupid enough to do this Phorm crap

I've asked a few people I trust about this and they sort of say "BT? Jolly good chaps, we use them. Totally trustworthy. What what what". And then, as I go further... "everything is vulnerable to a man in the middle attack". Errr.... Some people need to wake up and smell the coffee I think.

Softly, softly, catchee monkee

Dave

[Florence]

Originally Posted by R Jones

Maybe it is because it would be too difficult to explain? So they don't need to?

Wonder how many shareholders are slao BT total customers and if they want to be stalked over the internet

[SimonHickling]

Just out of interest has anyone got any more info on the Talk Talk switch on in June? I may have missed something on the thread when I slept (or blinked )

Or contact details, so I can ask them the same questions I've asked BT? Seems a shame to not involve them.

[Dephormation]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...php?p=23967088

I can confirm that as of June 2008 we will begin to offer our customers Phorm and Webwise services. This new service will help protect our customers from fraudulent websites and provides them with targeting advertising based on their web activity.

For further information please go to www.webwise.com.

Yours sincerely,

Heather Lunt
TalkTalk Customer Relations

[SimonHickling]

Thanks for that. I went to webwise for a laugh. Was the VM logo on there at any point? It's not there now and the logos look a bit unbalanced.

[Dephormation]

Google;

Your search - site:talktalk.co.uk webwise - did not match any documents.

Which is a bit surprising for a service they are so keen to deploy, transparently.

---------- Post added at 01:05 ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 ----------

Talk Talk? Phorm? June?

I've got friends in porcine aerodynamics who see a bright future for their products too.

They call it a "Revolution in aviation bacon". The pigs can opt out by eating cookies.

[SimonHickling]

If you look around their site there's no mention of it either. I just don't want them to feel left out, what with all the attention BT are getting.

[BadPhormula]

The poll for this thread has reached the magical 1,000 voters

958 yes voters = 95.80%
42 no idiots = 4.20%

prior to the 1,000 vote mark everytime we saw a new voter adding their mark to the yes (the ethical vote) the % scale didn't seem to shift to much (obviously). Whenever an idiot voted 'no' we would see the % indicator fluctuate on the right side of the decimal point and this was disappointing to see.

In order to see a really good result that will please the yes voters (the sensible vote) we would like to see the percentage tend towards 100% i.e. 99.XX% BUT did you know that even if no more idiots or Phormscumettes voted 'no' we would still need ten times as many 'yes' votes (the correct vote)..

9,958 'Yes' voters (give yourself a pat on the back for making the right choice) and 42 'No' (*******s) would still only give a 99.58% to the stamp out Phorm poll.


With 100,000 voters

99,958 'Yes' (heros)
42 'No' (villains)

Still only gives us 99.96% (Good Guys) vs 0.04% (Tw~ts)



etc etc You get the idea

Keep up the good votes!

[icsys]

Phorm shares closed at 1,087.50 yesterday -37.50
Does that make you feel a little better?

P.S. I hope you don't incite people to vote 'no' out of sheer spite!

---------- Post added at 01:28 ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 ----------

Originally Posted by SimonHickling

Just out of interest has anyone got any more info on the Talk Talk switch on in June? I may have missed something on the thread when I slept (or blinked )

Or contact details, so I can ask them the same questions I've asked BT? Seems a shame to not involve them.

Most likely they are holding off to see what happens with BT? But there are still three weeks of June left yet.
Any developments may appear on the talktalk forums

[BadPhormula]

Originally Posted by icsys

Phorm shares closed at 1,087.50 yesterday -37.50
Does that make you feel a little better?

P.S. I hope you don't incite people to vote 'no' out of sheer spite!

First point: I'm always pleased to see Phorm get a good kicking in the shares

Second: Regarding inciting idiots to vote 'no' out of spite, no I don't really care much about that, after all it is they who will have to live with their own stupidity. If anything I would feel a little bit sorry for such a retch, they must be living in a constant torment for being such an absolute turd


Getting back to the first point about Phorm shares (something we couldn't discuss on BadPhorm) another poster mentioned an interesting point about a certain level from which Phorm would probably not recover. Like the voting poll 'here' certain numbers have a special value (1/10/100/1,000/10,000 etc)

The special value for Phorm is 1000 pence per share (£10) this is a negative critical mass for Phorm, once the share price drops below the magical '1000' value we will see a definative milestone. It is unlikely Phorm will ever get back over the magical '1000' mark unless something catastrophic happens... Kent is crowned King on England, Phorm is voted the most ethical legal spying system ever '.' period. Emma Sanderson is voted Britains most beautiful wo(man) warts and all! etc etc. I follow several financial sites and I'll continue to project extra negative juju hex vibes onto their shares. With a bit of luck we will see Phorm implode once we get below the '1000' mark

[tdadyslexia]

How do I Block www.webwise.com I have added to my Hosts File:

 
89.145.112.31  www.webwise.com
89.145.112.32  www.webwise.com
38.105.138.53  ns1.webwise.com
38.105.138.54  ns2.webwise.com
89.145.112.31  webwise.com
89.145.112.32  webwise.com
38.105.138.53  ns1.webwise.com
38.105.138.54  ns2.webwise.com
64.72.118.11  mx01.webwise.com
64.72.118.13  mx02.webwise.com
38.105.138.53  ns1.webwise.com
38.105.138.54  ns2.webwise.com
83.223.127.226  ns01.uk.gyron.net
77.75.107.85  ns02.uk.gyron.net
89.145.112.31  as29017.net
89.145.106.198  as29017.net
83.223.127.134  as29017.net
89.145.125.17  as29017.net
84.233.153.30  as29017.net
83.223.127.134  gyron.net
83.223.127.134  www.gyron.net
83.223.127.226  ns01.uk.gyron.net
77.75.107.85  ns02.uk.gyron.net

Watt am I doing wrong?

Geeeeeeeee kant this site be killed.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by R Jones

I like the bit about the WPAA trying to sue laser printers. Alex - could you disguise yourself as a laser printer this way next time you put something on node that BT don't like?

If they try the letter job with me i will claim my modem has been cloned. It will be there job to prove it was not. There are lots of cloned modems in my area due to the local cloners selling to the university and college flats and houses.

what worries me is that the phorm system could so easily be used to DPI everyone for copyright reasons and to issue letters to those using the protocol they wish to target. Phorms kit would be capable of doing that there is no doubt in my mind and if and when VM sell themselves to the devil the floodgates will open.

[Rchivist]

Originally Posted by Dephormation

Google;

Your search - site:talktalk.co.uk webwise - did not match any documents.

Which is a bit surprising for a service they are so keen to deploy, transparently.

---------- Post added at 01:05 ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 ----------

Talk Talk? Phorm? June?

I've got friends in porcine aerodynamics who see a bright future for their products too.

They call it a "Revolution in aviation bacon". The pigs can opt out by eating cookies.

Now be realistic. Time in Phormland runs differently. The BT trials are due in March 2008, end March 2008, April 2008, by May 26th, this summer, "soon". So TalkTalk are well on target.