The iPhone thread

I noticed the £99 was for new customers as well?

So the USA to UK price actually stayed the same for once, even with VAT!

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

You will be waiting a while for the headless chickens, er I mean managers at O2 to decide on an upgrade policy.

Upgrade policy has been up since this morning:

http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/existingiphonecustomers

Originally Posted by Damien

I noticed the £99 was for new customers as well?

So the USA to UK price actually stayed the same for once, even with VAT!

We are actually getting it about a pound cheaper than the yanks.

New iPhone:

Contract: 18 Months
iPhone Cost: Free
Monthly Cost: £75
Total: £1,350

Or

Contract: 18 Months
iPhone Cost: Free
Monthly Cost: £45
Total: £810

Or

Contract: 18 Months
iPhone Cost: £99
Monthly Cost: £30
Total: £639


And that's just for starters....

No voice call / data charges have been included.

It's an awful lot of money for phone!

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by LSainsbury

New iPhone:

Contract: 18 Months
iPhone Cost: Free
Monthly Cost: £75
Total: £1,350

Or

Contract: 18 Months
iPhone Cost: Free
Monthly Cost: £45
Total: £810

Or

Contract: 18 Months
iPhone Cost: £99
Monthly Cost: £30
Total: £639


And that's just for starters....

No voice call / data charges have been included.

It's an awful lot of money for phone!

Data is included (and unlimited subject to fair use). The £30 tariff includes 600 minutes, and the 45 includes 1200 minutes. Even at peak rates, a lot of people I know would be hard pushed to use 1200 minutes a month.

Well, yeah. But that is the same with all contract phones. £30 is around the standard contract price. The only difference is paying £99 for the handset but quite a lot of expensive phones do this, the N95 did as well.

I think you need to compare the 18 month price to a similar phone/plan (unlimited data on 3G) to be fair and in that case they are quite equal.

Originally Posted by Damien

I think you need to compare the 18 month price to a similar phone/plan (unlimited data on 3G) to be fair and in that case they are quite equal.

Unlimited data - arrrrgghhhh there goes the marketing speak again! There ain't no such thing!

As I pointed out to a sales person in O2 on Saturday - tried to tell me it was unlimited until I pointed out what the ****'s were next to the description...

Oh look - "Subject to fair use policy" - which was 100MB - unlimited my bottom!!!!

Originally Posted by LSainsbury

Unlimited data - arrrrgghhhh there goes the marketing speak again! There ain't no such thing!

As I pointed out to a sales person in O2 on Saturday - tried to tell me it was unlimited until I pointed out what the ****'s were next to the description...

Oh look - "Subject to fair use policy" - which was 100MB - unlimited my bottom!!!!

http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/iphone

No mention of 100mb on their site.

UNLIMITED DATA / WIFI EXCESSIVE USAGE POLICY

Your O2 tariff for iPhone allows you unlimited use of Telefónica O2 UK Limited's Edge / GPRS networks and The Cloud's UK Wireless LAN network, for personal internet use, email and Visual Voicemail (VVM) on your iPhone only. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes.

You may not use your SIM Card in any other device, or use your SIM Card or iPhone to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing or use them in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other customers of O2 or The Cloud. If O2 reasonably suspect you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.

So unlimited as long as you don't push it so far as it impact upon the network. Unless you are going to somehow be using your phone to newgroup films and tv shows you pretty much have unlimited.

There was a 100mb limit before the phone arrived but O2 removed that, so I presume the documentation was old.

Anyway the point is the iPhone is no more expensive that similar phones/price plans on the market.

[handyman]

Originally Posted by LSainsbury

Unlimited data - arrrrgghhhh there goes the marketing speak again! There ain't no such thing!

As I pointed out to a sales person in O2 on Saturday - tried to tell me it was unlimited until I pointed out what the ****'s were next to the description...

Oh look - "Subject to fair use policy" - which was 100MB - unlimited my bottom!!!!

Without having a go, no wait I am going to anyway.

Saying that the phone costs £700 plus is moronic.

The phone now costs £99. Like all premium phones this is tied to a contract which in this case is 18 months. For my £35 I get unlimited cloud wifi (plus bt openzone coming online on July 11th), plus unlimited edge (on my new 3g iphone I'll get unlimited 3g as well). I also get 600 minutes and 200 texts which is more that I have ever used so I have complete peace of mind that I can use the phone as much as I want to with no extra charge.

I've used 25.2mb data down and 122mb data up since I've had it (9 months and 1day and it does not count wi-fi in that).

If you think it's expensive then don't buy it. I'm happy to have spent money on the phone, happy with the monthly cost and service and happy enough to have ordered the new one since this one has performed better than any mobile/smartphone I have used.

It's an awful lot of money for phone!

No that's a reasonable amount of money for a good contract.
Sky+ tv basic £371 or (£149 for the box plus £30 install plus £16 per month x12)
Virgin 20mb Broadband £312 (£26 per month)

It is always going to look more if you add up the TCO.

Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/iphone

No mention of 100mb on their site.

It wasn't an iPhone we were discussing in the shop!

[punky]

Actually annoyingly the iPhone O2 tariffs are cheaper than their non-iPhone O2 tariffs.

£35 gives you 600 mins, 500 texts and unlimited data and wifi. To get that on a non-iPhone you need to pay £42.50 (although you get 1000 texts). Basically with iPhone you get a free bolt-on.

They did say way you could get an iPhone tariff on a non-iPhone phone, but I can't see how you add it up on the website.

Originally Posted by punky

Actually annoyingly the iPhone O2 tariffs are cheaper than their non-iPhone O2 tariffs.

£35 gives you 600 mins, 500 texts and unlimited data and wifi. To get that on a non-iPhone you need to pay £42.50 (although you get 1000 texts). Basically with iPhone you get a free bolt-on.

They did say way you could get an iPhone tariff on a non-iPhone phone, but I can't see how you add it up on the website.

Before the iPhone had worse minutes, but they fixed that since. The free bolt on is unlimited data? If so, that was a limit requested by Apple otherwise the iPhone is sorta pointless

I think Apple are changing tact and instead trying to get the iPhone out in as many hands as possible in order to make money from the AppStore, iTunes and such.

They made the unit cheaper and are not taking a share of the contract price anymore.

[punky]

The free bolt-on is unlimited wifi or unlimited data. It doesn't matter which, they both cost the same.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think Apple are changing tact and instead trying to get the iPhone out in as many hands as possible in order to make money from the AppStore, iTunes and such.

and 12 months on they have got to all the early adopters that were prepared to pay a premium for that early adoption. Now they are finding that by comparison to other high end handsets the sticker shock in the store is putting people off buying. The average consumer probably notices five to ten quid a months on their bill far less than a hundred quid a the checkout of the O2 Store.

[mr_bo]

I'm well tempted with this, it is only because I didn't check the store opening times that I didn't bag one when they had the price drop. The following day I put my 'level head' on lol.

[Russ]

The price for the 3g iphone on PAYG by o2 was leaked on the net today and revealed at £299 for the 8gb and £399 for the 16.

Free browsing for the first 6 months then £10 per month.

It was on o2's site for a few hours then taken down - someone managed to capture this screenie before it vanished - http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?i...eo2paygbt3.png