[Merged] Broadband's faster future BBC check on Virgin Media Trials

[markknell]

Wow that's interesting, after testing non-Ambit modems for over a year it seems we've been wasting our time. I'll have to ask Neil.

Originally Posted by TraxData

Ambit modems will be used upon launch.

The limits have already been set for launch, actually.

They are thinking of charging a higher price and removing STM though.

Any sort of limit would spoil the product, the whole point of a high speed connection is to be able to download files quicker.

STM doesnt make sense on 50mbit, in theory if you can download files quicker u get things quicker and thus can free bandwith up on the network.

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So why do you want 50mbit then? just to look at emails quicker?

Originally Posted by Robertus

What...so Usenet is void now is it?



And to be honest with systems such as Fileplanet/Gamershell/Steam there's an awful lot of legitimate stuff to download

You only have that stuff off usenet thanks to people with high upload speeds, so it matters in that situation as well

So you do admit you just take take and take then

Exactly..which goes back to my original point as why higher upload speeds are needed, sites like that even do p2p stuff now (even itunes US does and soon will the UK side) legal movie sites etc as well..legal streaming, all require good upload speeds.

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Originally Posted by markknell

Wow that's interesting, after testing non-Ambit modems for over a year it seems we've been wasting our time. I'll have to ask Neil.

The modems your using now have upstream bonding capability but did not pass the initial trial stages (aka, oh my these actually cost money, screw that).

Go tell neil off, he ruined the upload speeds

[Robertus]

Off out now, just so you don't think I'm running away.

I shall be back later. I'm eager to see if it's true about STM on the 50mbit product and will be fairly annoyed if true.

[markknell]

TraxData, a lot of the information about the 50 Mbps trial on this forum is very, very out of date. To be honest we might as well leave it at that because this thread is going a little off tangent.

I guess no one really knows what's going on until the product launches because these things change all the time.

Originally Posted by markknell

TraxData, a lot of the information about the 50 Mbps trial on this forum is very, very out of date. To be honest we might as well leave it at that because this thread is going a little off tangent.

I guess no one really knows what's going on until the product launches because these things change all the time.

I know the full specifications set for the 50mbit..and its very upto dare information, but we wont go into how i know

Say hi to neil for me

[markknell]

Will do, bye for now

[nando]

Originally Posted by Robertus

Don't forget Trax is in bed with Neil, so we get everything from the horses mouth.

Oh no he's not....!

Hi!

(markknell.... we forgot XLR8 ;-)

[Nicosia]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Most of us can get 2.5mbit already on ADSL+2

If you really believe 1.5mbit is quick with a 50mbit download speed your so mistaken.

Enjoy being ripped off anyway

adsl may have a 2.5mbit upload ( only with bethere unless im mistaken )
but cable still has a faster download even if they where to both offer 50mbit u would see more speed from cable, plus who cares about the upload what do u need it for? the main thing is u have a good dl speed.

but i agre 1.5mbit upload on 50mbit is not a good upload it should be like 10mbit up or 5mbit at least

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tey should of downloaded like a 100mbyte file to test the connection not 10mbyte

Originally Posted by Nicosia

adsl may have a 2.5mbit upload ( only with bethere unless im mistaken )
but cable still has a faster download even if they where to both offer 50mbit u would see more speed from cable, plus who cares about the upload what do u need it for? the main thing is u have a good dl speed.

but i agre 1.5mbit upload on 50mbit is not a good upload it should be like 10mbit up or 5mbit at least

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tey should of downloaded like a 100mbyte file to test the connection not 10mbyte

If you try uploading and downloading on 50mbit it cripples to sub par speeds.

What do i need high upload for? let's see, legal home movies, legal p2p services, legal hd streams, legal streaming, legal app use, legal linux distro use, etc, list goes on and on and on..

Also plenty of illegal reasons as well for some people

For 50mbit down you really need 5mbit up to really sell it as a premium package, lets face it 50mbit package is going to be aimed at high speed downloaders/uploaders.

[Nicosia]

they will probbaly wai for 100mbit to give out a 5mbit upload

[UnReaL]

In the future everyone could have the option of getting their broadband at up to 100Mb per second - and some homes can already get speeds of up to 50Mb per second.

Rory Cellan-Jones has been inside a home with a fibre-optic connection to see what difference this superfast broadband can make.

Source + Video: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7439642.stm

It was on BBC News Northwest today, I checked out BBC.co.uk and got hold of it.

I'm not sure if I've posted it in the wrong secton or not.

[Druchii]

Correct section, and nice find

I presume this means the feedback from the trials has been favourable & they are now thinking how it can be deployed - although I wonder if the 5 seconds it apparently took the 10MB file to download was foot in mouth for the BBC speed test or the 50Mb/s trial?

I work that out to be about 16Mb/s

[markknell]

It was the BBC speed test which was the problem. There is always a weakest link from a to b in the internet and this time it was the BBC. The 50 Mbps trials have been sound. I performed this test earlier in the week and done it under 3 seconds but that was before the hype that the BBC generated.

In any case a 10 MB file is far to small to test 50 Mbps.

Originally Posted by homealone

I presume this means the feedback from the trials has been favourable & they are now thinking how it can be deployed - although I wonder if the 5 seconds it apparently took the 10MB file to download was foot in mouth for the BBC speed test or the 50Mb/s trial?

I work that out to be about 16Mb/s

Originally Posted by markknell

It was the BBC speed test which was the problem. There is always a weakest link from a to b in the internet and this time it was the BBC. The 50 Mbps trials have been sound. I performed this test earlier in the week and done it under 3 seconds but that was before the hype that the BBC generated.

In any case a 10 MB file is far to small to test 50 Mbps.

It wasn't so much the numbers, themselves, but that they allowed them to be broadcast like a good thing - as in, whomever did the script knew nothing about what 50 Mb/s speed should be & it still got passed through to the final take???