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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
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			04-06-2008, 21:51
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 Okay Alex - you win. I'm shocked. And I'm only on page 5.
 
I've written to the BT Beta forum moderation team to ask them what their attitude will be to people linking directly to the Wikileak page or quoting from the document. I'm on a "final warning" on that site, and I don't want them chucking all the key contributors off the forum or worse. So we will see what they say. But we have ways round that...
 
I wonder what BT will be looking like in the morning?  
I wonder if Emma will ever email me again? 
I wonder if they will start treating us customers a bit better now? 
I wonder which managers are cheering and which ones are stocking up on Entero VioPhorm? 
I wonder how Ian Livingstone will get on at the AGM with that one on the table in front of him?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 21:52
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			This document is priceless, I want to thank the brave employee of BT who sent it to Alex.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 21:58
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 Have added more diggs to the comments on the article   
Also, just a quickie. Can the report be posted somewhere other than the secure section of wikileaks? Firefox 3 is telling me that the certificate for the secure secition of wikileaks expired a few weeks ago and as much as I want to read the document, I don't want to start letting sites off the hook with out of date certificates.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 22:03
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			digg up my comment or I'll find you.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 22:15
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Also, just a quickie. Can the report be posted somewhere other than the secure section of wikileaks? Firefox 3 is telling me that the certificate for the secure secition of wikileaks expired a few weeks ago and as much as I want to read the document, I don't want to start letting sites off the hook with out of date certificates. 
			
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 Works fine on http://
 
 http://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Image:BT_Report.pdf
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 22:16
			
			
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			04-06-2008, 22:17
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Posted on ISPr asking for diggs hope to get more soon...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 22:20
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Was wondering on that since I am holding 220 shares would be wondering where this leaves us shareholders who knew nothing since Bt didn't do any informed reviews to shareholders over this. Or my mother glazed over at the technical stuff and gave chair control of her proxy vote but BT have shown you need to keep ontop of them as a share holder and this will never happen again.. 
			
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 You OWN a share of the company.  You have no CONTROL, you have delegated that responsbility to the board of directors.  You can take issues about the control of the company you own up with the board of directors either directly, through their audit or ethics committees or by posing questions at the AGM.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 22:20
			
			
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			I take it this has been distributed to all known press everywhere? 
 
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			04-06-2008, 22:22
			
			
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				You OWN a share of the company.  You have no CONTROL, you have delegated that responsbility to the board of directors.  You can take issues about the control of the company you own up with the board of directors either directly, through their audit or ethics committees or by posing questions at the AGM. 
			
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			04-06-2008, 22:23
			
			
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				digged...or is it dugged?? 
			
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 like the video game.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dig_Dug
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-06-2008, 22:26
			
			
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			Rather a shame you had to put that document on a site with an expired security certificate.... bit of a let down with all our own concerns about privacy... 
 
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				Rather a shame you had to put that document on a site with an expired security certificate.... bit of a let down with all our own concerns about privacy... 
 
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			04-06-2008, 22:32
			
			
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				They would have had to declare them as charitable contributions in their annual report, and they have none listed. 
 
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 I've sent the url of the report and your site to my MP Annette Brooke LD who recently wrote to me with Don Foster's comments following his contacts with with Phorm and BT and Gums (ICO). 
 
I have suggested that they circulate it amongst the 40 MP's who signed the EDM and that Don Foster makes contact with you. Maybe he will turn up at the demo now.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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