Last Round on the Underground

[Vlad_Dracul]

Quote Incognitas>Well my problem with all the latest nannyesque banning of everything 'bad' is where does it stop?I'm also severely annoyed that because of the actions of small groups of the wider community the majority are slowly having their freedom eroded in the interest of the public good<

It isnt that drinking is being banned as such .It is drinking in inappropriate places which is being banned and nothing wrong with that. I do not want to see people quaffing alcohol from cans and bottles on public transport,belching their fumes and inflicting their raucous behaviour on the travelling public. How can that be acceptable to anyone? Drinking of alcohol must only take place in licensed premises or in the privacy of ones own home. Simple-black and white...how can anyone object to that?

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BBKing>What will you ban next? I spent last night sitting at a table on a South London street outside a pub enjoying a few pints of London Pride and good conversation - should I make the most of it because that'll surely be next if the country is really full of 'right-minded' self-righteous morlocks, killjoys and puritans who think such a pleasant way of passing the time is 'bad form,bad mannered and unacceptable'. Pshaw.<

And good luck to you BB and i hope you had a splendid time. Your evening took place within the boundaries of a licenced premise,you had a good time and presumably didnt vomit,belch verbally or physically assault someone? Great,but that is a world away from swigging a bottle of WKD whilst lollopping around a railway carriage and making a damn nuisance of yourself..

[danielf]

Was there actually a problem with people drinking on the Tube before the ban?

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Originally Posted by Vlad_Dracul

It isnt that drinking is being banned as such .It is drinking in inappropriate places which is being banned and nothing wrong with that. I do not want to see people quaffing alcohol from cans and bottles on public transport,belching their fumes and inflicting their raucous behaviour on the travelling public. How can that be acceptable to anyone? Drinking of alcohol must only take place in licensed premises or in the privacy of ones own home. Simple-black and white...how can anyone object to that?

What's wrong with someone having a drink on a long train journey?

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by danielf

Was there actually a problem with people drinking on the Tube before the ban?

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What's wrong with someone having a drink on a long train journey?

I travel on the tube alot but have only been effected by drunks a couple of times. They didnt do anything to me specifically but they didnt make the journey comfortable for any of the surrounding passengers with their exploits.

Seen drunks throw up in the overland trains a few times too.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

I travel on the tube alot but have only been effected by drunks a couple of times. They didnt do anything to me specifically but they didnt make the journey comfortable for any of the surrounding passengers with their exploits.

Seen drunks throw up in the overland trains a few times too.

But were they actually drinking on the trains? Obviously, people will take the tube to get home after going out drinking (and I'm not saying that is nice for those around them), but I'm just wondering if there was much actual drinking going on?

Originally Posted by Vlad_Dracul

Quote Incognitas>Well my problem with all the latest nannyesque banning of everything 'bad' is where does it stop?I'm also severely annoyed that because of the actions of small groups of the wider community the majority are slowly having their freedom eroded in the interest of the public good<

It isnt that drinking is being banned as such .It is drinking in inappropriate places which is being banned and nothing wrong with that. I do not want to see people quaffing alcohol from cans and bottles on public transport,belching their fumes and inflicting their raucous behaviour on the travelling public. How can that be acceptable to anyone? Drinking of alcohol must only take place in licensed premises or in the privacy of ones own home. Simple-black and white...how can anyone object to that?

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BBKing>What will you ban next? I spent last night sitting at a table on a South London street outside a pub enjoying a few pints of London Pride and good conversation - should I make the most of it because that'll surely be next if the country is really full of 'right-minded' self-righteous morlocks, killjoys and puritans who think such a pleasant way of passing the time is 'bad form,bad mannered and unacceptable'. Pshaw.<

And good luck to you BB and i hope you had a splendid time. Your evening took place within the boundaries of a licenced premise,you had a good time and presumably didnt vomit,belch verbally or physically assault someone? Great,but that is a world away from swigging a bottle of WKD whilst lollopping around a railway carriage and making a damn nuisance of yourself..

What arrant nonsense you spout at times...Whether I'm drinking alcohol sitting outside a pub,on a train,in the street or in my own garden I do not belch or inflict my raucous behaviour on others...So why the hell should I stop drinking in those venues or be prevented from doing so because others have no self control.

I'm thoroughly sick of freedoms being slowly eroded because people like you tar everyone with the same brush.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

What arrant nonsense you spout at times...

At times? I think you're being overly generous there

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by danielf

But were they actually drinking on the trains? Obviously, people will take the tube to get home after going out drinking (and I'm not saying that is nice for those around them), but I'm just wondering if there was much actual drinking going on?

Yes, in one of them I remeber the guy drinking from a can. But remember, these were a few incidents compared to how often I use the tube. To be honest I havent seen that many people actually drinking on the tube.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Yes, in one of them I remeber the guy drinking from a can. But remember, these were a few incidents compared to how often I use the tube. To be honest I havent seen that many people actually drinking on the tube.

Cheers. So basically there was no actual need for the ban that caused last night's disruption?

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by danielf

Cheers. So basically there was no actual need for the ban that caused last night's disruption?

I don't see any need to ban drinking on the tube. For one I have not seen that many people drink on the tube anyway, but I have seen drunken people on the tube. What I'd prefer to see is drunks not allowed to get on the tube. By the way I dont drink, so its not like Im saying dont ban drinking on the tube for any personal reasons.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by danielf

Was there actually a problem with people drinking on the Tube before the ban?

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What's wrong with someone having a drink on a long train journey?

I love nothing more than a glass of wine on the train. Rather looking forward to my trip to Manchester next week and the bottle of Pinot I have for it.

Originally Posted by Shaun

I love nothing more than a glass of wine on the train. Rather looking forward to my trip to Manchester next week and the bottle of Pinot I have for it.

shirley not this, though

http://www.codehot.co.uk/lyrics/uvwxyz/who/5-15.htm

- anyway, I thought pride wasn't till August

[punky]

Some years ago, the entire Coventry City Centre was designated an alcohol-free zone and open containers of alcohol were banned outside any pub or beer garden. I missed the mass rioting at this abhorrent abuse of human rights by a totalitarian regime (Coventry City Council) at the time.

Speaking of totalitarian regimes, there's no question Red Ken wouldn't have implemented a similar ban, as he's incapable of adhering to it (or even remaining dry whilst at work)

Also, since when did Bob Crow suddenly get the veto on the mayor's policies? Did I miss a memo or something?

[seaofpepsicola]

have a look at the photos...it looks real bad...one girl unconscious as someone jumped from above down onto her...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-violence.html

[Derek]

Big chunks of Scotland (almost all now I think) have bans on people drinking alcohol in public and have done for a number of years.

Can't really see that much of an issue with it. If you want a drink out in the open there are plenty of bars with beer gardens kicking about. It does help get the Buckfast brigade and 'gentlemen of leisure' off the streets instead of stoating about with a half drunk bottle of vodka hassling folk.

And 17 arrests? After the big, bad Scottish hooligans destroyed Manchester city centre (according to the media) there were only 42 arrests. So were things only half as bad on the tube as in Manchester?

[tweetiepooh]

About the only time I've drunk alcohol on the tube was St Patrick's night many moons ago.

I was waiting at Harrow on the Hill for my train when I was joined by a crowd of mildly drunk Irishmen also on their way home. To continue their celebration they opened a can of lager, produced a shot glass, and "made" everyone in the group take a drink, filling and passing round the shot glass. A brilliant way to make a couple of cans go round and take time to. Great fun.

Spreading wider though it's the ban on alcohol in parks and the like that I find harder. I quite often would picnic, on my tod or with company, some nice bread, cheese, cold meats and a bottle of vino (with cups). Enjoy dining al-fresco, clean up afterwards, dispose of litter in bin. Blanket bans wipe out this pleasure and seem to do little to stop consumption of HSL judging by bottles left in playgrounds.