Channel 4 HD and Virgin Media

[nialli]

I've just posted a long rant over on the VMHD blog about Channel 4 HD. Thought I'd post it here on the forum to see if others feel the same way.

Like all V+ customers, I'm getting increasingly frustrated with the wait for C4 HD content. Late last year, when the channel was launched on Sky, we were told that Virgin had secured the rights to the C4 HD as both a linear channel and for video on demand. Almost six months later and we're still waiting.
It may be a delay because of bandwidth restrictions. It may be because C4 itself isn't truly free-to-air quite just yet. It may be a technology restraint. It's most likely just not a priority in the days of marketing "super fast" broadband and "Mix It Up TV". Whatever. I feel like I'm still waiting for my last 2007 Christmas present...
But before we take to the streets burning effigies of Neil Berkett, have you seen what's actually showing in HD over on Channel 4? Pardon my french, but absolutely bugger all - six months after launch and there's still only a couple of films and a handful of US imports in HD. No homegrown HD programming whatsoever next week and, given that C4 has recently announced they're cutting back on the US stuff and focusing on UK programmes, that's pretty worrying.
In fact, Skins apart, I cannot recall any HD from these shores on C4 in 2008. Shameless? No. Peep Show? No. Even the weekly overstuffing of Ramsay and Oliver cookery entertaining, which uses very few cameras and can look sumptuous in HD, is still being shot in standard definition. Even I can pop down to John Lewis, buy myself an HD camcorder and make a better hash of it.
And because the HD channel's a C4 simulcast, HD shot shows on E4, More 4 and Film Four have no HD outlet whatsoever. Think how great an HD showcase taking the best of all four Four channels could be. But even on C4 new series of US imports like Smallville and ER , shot in HD but still being shown over here in SD, it's pathetically weak when compared to Sky One HD or even the often-maligned BBC HD.
Virgin Media should broadcast C4 HD as a priority to make a statement of intent with high definition services for its customers, but Channel 4 needs to make a similar statement by making an effort and delivering what it says on the tin: high definition programming.
Come on, chaps...before Christmas 2008 is upon us...

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by nialli

I've just posted a long rant over on the VMHD blog about Channel 4 HD. Thought I'd post it here on the forum to see if others feel the same way.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

lol

[ShaneC]

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head there. We want C4 HD because we want more HD content but we also want there to be some decent HD content on it.

[TheBlueRaja]

I wouldn't get your knickers in a twist, Channel 4 HD is pretty awful, in fact its one of the worst HD channels out of the 15 or so on Sky HD.

I don't actually think i've ever watched anything on it come to think of it.

[oliver1948uk]

If that is the case, I certainly do not want VM spending my money making that channel available. Let's be patient and wait for enough HD content to be produced to supply HD channels which only show stuff produced in HD

[demented]

I can't really argue with the points in the blog, put in a passionte and true but amusing way but I have watched C4 HD quite a bit on a mates SkyHD box. It's been great seeing some of the films they've shown in HD and apart from around Christmas/New Year and Indiana Jones it's something BBC HD has not done. C4 HDs HD content has been low but so it the BBCs still being at about 4hrs a night every night except at weekends when they actually have a schedule. Certainly irritating that there's popular shows there that could be shown in HD but aren't.

[nialli]

Originally Posted by demented

I can't really argue with the points in the blog, put in a passionte and true but amusing way but I have watched C4 HD quite a bit on a mates SkyHD box. It's been great seeing some of the films they've shown in HD and apart from around Christmas/New Year and Indiana Jones it's something BBC HD has not done. C4 HDs HD content has been low but so it the BBCs still being at about 4hrs a night every night except at weekends when they actually have a schedule. Certainly irritating that there's popular shows there that could be shown in HD but aren't.

We should see some schedule improvements as the BBC HD profile is being lifted for the Freesat promotion now underway. You've probably seen the ads everywhere, and they're even publishing BBC HD listings in the Radio Times from next week.

[gadge]

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

I wouldn't get your knickers in a twist, Channel 4 HD is pretty awful, in fact its one of the worst HD channels out of the 15 or so on Sky HD.

I don't actually think i've ever watched anything on it come to think of it.

There are some good films on at the weekends and it upscales well.So it does us working in the week we dont watch ch4 hd only at weekends if there is something good on like one hour photo picture was excellent.

[JMcB]

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

If that is the case, I certainly do not want VM spending my money making that channel available. Let's be patient and wait for enough HD content to be produced to supply HD channels which only show stuff produced in HD

? how can you say that if you'v never seen it yourself ?