Riot police on standby in Manchester - Page 3

Mal · 15-05-2008, 19:58

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Originally Posted by harmitage

Not excusing these thugs in anyway but were Manchester Police wise to allow them to dring all day in the open air. It seems to me they bottled tackling that problem earlier in the day.

That's the thing though, the police are in a catch-22 situation. They could have been heavy-handed and broke the crowds up, but it could have kicked off then.

The Rangers fans were all over town and around where I work and they were no problem whatsoever.

Derek · 15-05-2008, 21:04

100,000+ fans and these *bleeping* idiots have to go and ruin it for everyone else.

Not one arrest in the away games leading up to the final but then the drunken halfwits who wouldn't know one end of Ibrox from the other end up going to Manchester, getting tanked up and generally disgracing themselves and Rangers fans in general.

Still I see some of the ones who decided to have a go at the Police ended up on the wrong end of a savaging by a land shark.

I hope the 11 who have been charged get absolutely hammered by the courts and Manchester never get given another large sporting event again.

On the brighter side all the people I know who were down in Manchester didn't see any trouble and had a great time.

punky · 15-05-2008, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Derek S

I hope ... Manchester never get given another large sporting event again.

Why? I thought they did as much as they'd could, especially arranging another screen elsewhere at short notice and offering to bus them with a police escort. More than i'd have done anyway.

Shadow Demon UK · 15-05-2008, 21:10

I think a better idea is banning Rangers from Europe next season then never giving Manchester another large sporting event again.

Derek · 15-05-2008, 21:13

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Originally Posted by punky

Why? I thought they did as much as they'd could, especially arranging another screen elsewhere at short notice and offering to bus them with a police escort. More than i'd have done anyway.

It's the overall lack of planning for fans. They would have known there was a decent chance of a British team reaching the final when they bid for the final.

When Rangers got the last 8 or even 4 they should have started making more plans. They only relented in setting up screens at all on Sunday, if they had planned properly they could have testing things instead of trying to wing it.

Shadow Demon UK · 15-05-2008, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Derek S

It's the overall lack of planning for fans. They would have known there was a decent chance of a British team reaching the final when they bid for the final.

When Rangers got the last 8 or even 4 they should have started making more plans. They only relented in setting up screens at all on Sunday, if they had planned properly they could have testing things instead of trying to wing it.

But the fact is they didn't have to put big screens up for fans, why should they have done? They already need to have a large number of police at the actual stadium for the match so they could have easily said a few days before the game there would be no big screens for fans and tell them not to bother going if you dont have a ticket. It would have been much easier for them to organise and handle, but they let the Rangers fans come and facilitated them only for them to riot, what a nice thank you that was. Now they wont be showing the Champions league final next week on big screens with a team from their own city playing in it because of what happened, so thanks Rangers fans for spoling it for everyone else.

Derek · 15-05-2008, 21:25

A snarling, inbred, vicious animal. Oh and a Police dog

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

But the fact is they didn't have to put big screens up for fans, why should they have done?

If they had ever spoken to a football fan they'd have known that they tend to travel following their team regardless if they have tickets or not.
When it became clear there was a chance of a UK team being in the final they should have made plans in advance.

What would they have done if Everton got to the final? Just hope they would stay in Liverpool?

It's part of the deal of hosting large sporting events, you are going to get hangers on and travelling fans. Manchester didn't have a proper plan to deal with large numbers of them

Shadow Demon UK · 15-05-2008, 21:29

I don't understand what you mean by proper plans. They had numerous screens up around Manchester, i don't think they can be blamed for there being a technical fault but even then they had buses straight away taking fans to other screens. I would understand you saying that they didn't have proper plans if those buses weren't available but to me it sounds like they planned it pretty well. I think some fans went there just looking for a fight and used the screen breaking as an excuse for it and then others joined in when they lost.

Derek · 15-05-2008, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I don't understand what you mean by proper plans.

Up until Sunday they hadn't made any solid plans for big screens or decent sized fan zones. They were just saying that people without tickets shouldn't travel knowing full well that would fall on deaf ears.

Shadow Demon UK · 15-05-2008, 21:38

I would have thought they just used the plans they were going to use for next wednesday, but now aren't because of bunch of drunk Scots that were looking for a fight.

15-05-2008, 22:23

Should have taken away all the booze and given them marijuana, things would have been so different.

SMG · 15-05-2008, 23:29

These idiots demonstrated all the qualities required to be a complete dick. I drove along the lancs in Swinton yesterday, among happy fans, waving the Union & Scottish flag. What happened to turn some of these people into animals. They are a damned disgrace.

The Police were less than professional, their anti riot squad was a complete shambles, running away leaving a man alone. You never withdraw like that.

A bad day for sport.

squirrel1970 · 16-05-2008, 00:04

Blame Tesco.. they were selling discount lager in Manchester from 9am onwards - by the CRATE... and then of course, the open booze areas open from 10am... yeah, I can see where that might lead to problems later on....

The guys who were in charge of getting a signal for the large screen tv? Oh yeah.. where were they all afternoon when they were supposed to be setting it up?

All that rubbish and litter will take time to clean - who is going to pay the bill for that eh? ah yeah, Manchester... yeah, we would appreciate a little financial incentive for cleaning up all that mess...........

And now? they're saying that the smell of beer, vomit and urine will take a few weeks to properly clear up... they're not recommending you have your kids running through the fountains in Piccadilly Gardens either.......

Avoid Manchester? yup....

Paddy1 · 16-05-2008, 00:48

City of Manchester should just bill Rangers FC for the damages

WHISTLED · 16-05-2008, 08:24

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they're not recommending you have your kids running through the fountains in Piccadilly Gardens either.......

Erm they never have, plus that waters full of chlorine so its no worse than a swimming pool