Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 438

AlexanderHanff · 14-05-2008, 10:36

Poor b*stard Kent just can't get any stability on that PHRM stock...my heart bleeds as I watch the markets (!)

Alexander Hanff

NTLVictim · 14-05-2008, 10:40

Down 13.1% in an hour and forty minutes..am I reading that right?

AlexanderHanff · 14-05-2008, 10:43

Slightly more now, down 237.5p since opening. Last trade was 1450p at 09:42.

BTW seems Charles Arthur is not the only member of the press to have heard the rumours about VM, it has been going around for a couple of weeks now. I have it from a good source that we are likely to see an official VM Phorm kicking in the next couple of weeks.

Alexander Hanff

kt88man · 14-05-2008, 11:32

The share price drop is nice to see, unfortunately they are all small trades at the moment.

It would be good news indeed to see VM pull out of the deal with Phorm, let's hope the rumours are substantiated.

However, even then I feel that it's very important to keep pressure on the ISPs with the simple message "No behavioural advertising, remember what happened with Phorm."

Deko · 14-05-2008, 11:45

ahh damn i missed the boat was looking to short spreadbet this @ Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£5 per point right after the open. i would have netted over 500 notes.

ho hum.

Ravenheart · 14-05-2008, 11:54

The V of Virgin, turned into a 2 finger salute to Phorm would make an ideal graphic if the rumours that Virgin have dumped them are true. Pity I have no artistic ability whatsoever

AlexanderHanff · 14-05-2008, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenheart

Pity I have no artistic ability whatsoever

Maybe you could apply for a job as a Phorm logo designer then

bwahahaha

Alexander Hanff

Florence · 14-05-2008, 12:15

At least if this is announced then it is good news for those still stuck with VM, I hope thye have learnt theior lesson on this and don't go looking for other companies that are intrusive like phorm.

Wildie · 14-05-2008, 13:18

found this http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-users-replace
they must opt out.

Florence · 14-05-2008, 13:37

They need the help that Alexander can give he is the only true champion on this front as privacy internatioinal would not have been in our fight helping us.

Ravenheart I am not that good at graphics still lerning but is this similar to what you wanted.

serial · 14-05-2008, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jelv

Another Phorm reference:

http://www.eaca.be/news/newsletterar...sletter=77#981

About half way down "MEPs raise questions on consumer data protection and advertising"

Syed Kamall and Robert Evans are both my MEP's, good to see them working on this.

AlexanderHanff · 14-05-2008, 13:43

I wish I had some spare cash at the moment I would register d-p-i.org and put up a site called "Deep Packet Infection". Actually nodpi.org might be better.

Alexander Hanff

oblonsky · 14-05-2008, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildie

found this http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-users-replace
they must opt out.

You know this is very interesting. The opt-out mechanism sounds like Phorm and a trading friend told me that last Friday's spike in share price was to do with a new deal "going live" soon, which I took to be the trials at BT. I wonder whether this might just be Phorm? Does anyone know the opt-out mechanism, if any, for NebuAd or any other data raper?

Rchivist · 14-05-2008, 13:55

I've been trying to find out why BT Beta forum posts don't seem to feature on Google unless quoted somewhere else.

I wonder if they are blocking the Googlebot? - perhaps the forum mods are trying to keep Webwise away from the forums?

Their robots.txt either doesn't exist or is well hidden.

A search for "beta.bt.com/bta/forums/thread" gives 6,780 hits with plenty of beta forum threads in the results
A "search within results" check for "webwise" reduces this to 17, with not a single result from the official Webwise threads (despite there being three lengthy threads on their board)

A "search within results" check for "phorm" on the same starting point gives
10 hits, of which two are BT Beta forum posts - and the hits relate to the official opening moderator posts on one Webwise thread and the FAQ page on Webwise.

Pretty hypocritical to snoop on our browsing at Layer 7 and then manage to keep Google away from the relevant public discussion threads?

AlexanderHanff · 14-05-2008, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by oblonsky

You know this is very interesting. The opt-out mechanism sounds like Phorm and a trading friend told me that last Friday's spike in share price was to do with a new deal "going live" soon, which I took to be the trials at BT. I wonder whether this might just be Phorm? Does anyone know the opt-out mechanism, if any, for NebuAd or any other data raper?

It isn't Phorm it is NebuAd. And I wouldn't be holding my breath if I was them they are on the brink of being involved in some legal messes due to their ISP partners "forgetting" to send out the letters informing the customers of the new "service".

NebuAd and similar companies are coming under a lot of attention from US politicians and privacy groups at the moment, it won't be long before the US public are up in arms about it.

Oh and the spike last Friday was nothing to do with a new deal either. According to my sources in the City it was based on speculation that the BT Trials will be starting in next couple of weeks.

Alexander Hanff