Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > Virgin Media Services > Virgin Media Internet Service
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
View Poll Results: Will you be opting out of the Virgin Ad Deal?
Yes, Definitely. 958 95.51%
No, I am quite happy to share my surfing habits with anyone. 45 4.49%
Voters: 1003. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 24-04-2008, 16:41   #4726
The Other Steve
Inactive
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13
The Other Steve is an unknown quantity at this point
Thumbs down Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbadcol View Post
He has admited he has no problem with having his privacy invaded.

You, on the other hand, supposedly have a BIG problem with people's privacy being invaded. Isn't that what this is all about ?
The Other Steve is offline  
Advertisement
Old 24-04-2008, 16:46   #4727
AlexanderHanff
Permanently Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,028
AlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful one
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other Steve View Post
You, on the other hand, supposedly have a BIG problem with people's privacy being invaded. Isn't that what this is all about ?
Yeah we need to get off this silly streak on iii it does nothing for the cause at all. Stooping to the level of the very people we are fighting is not the way to win the battle and certainly won't get us anywhere closer to winning the war.

The best way to stop a troll is to ignore them.

Alexander Hanff
AlexanderHanff is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 16:51   #4728
mark777
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Services: 0.4 Mbps BB + Phone
Posts: 447
mark777 is a glorious beacon of lightmark777 is a glorious beacon of lightmark777 is a glorious beacon of lightmark777 is a glorious beacon of lightmark777 is a glorious beacon of lightmark777 is a glorious beacon of lightmark777 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by R Jones View Post
Here's the committee
Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee Members
{snip}
Thanks for this. I had a stooge around myself and amended my earlier post.

Oddly, I got a slightly different list of names from :-

http://www.parliament.uk/parliamenta...ee_members.cfm
mark777 is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 16:52   #4729
popper
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,270
popper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze array
popper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze arraypopper has a bronze array
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

The Other Steve
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other Steve View Post
You, on the other hand, supposedly have a BIG problem with people's privacy being invaded. Isn't that what this is all about ?
agreed....

BTW not that im trying to track you OCYU LOL, but are you the same one posting on the reg etc, good to see you join the CF and the fight
popper is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:01   #4730
The Other Steve
Inactive
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13
The Other Steve is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by popper View Post
The Other Steve

agreed....

BTW not that im trying to track you OCYU LOL, but are you the same one posting on the reg etc, good to see you join the CF and the fight
Yes, that's me, de-lurking to say hello, almost seems rude to have been following the thread for so long without saying anything at all.
The Other Steve is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:04   #4731
CaptJamieHunter
Inactive
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 234
CaptJamieHunter will become famous soon enoughCaptJamieHunter will become famous soon enoughCaptJamieHunter will become famous soon enough
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

El Reg carries a Home Office attempted cop out in response to the FIPR at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...phorm_fipr_bt/

Just passing through, btw.
CaptJamieHunter is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:05   #4732
AlexanderHanff
Permanently Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,028
AlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful one
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Here we go:

Jamie beat me to it, link removed.

Alexander Hanff
AlexanderHanff is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:06   #4733
OF1975
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stazi Republic of Phormistan
Posts: 329
OF1975 will become famous soon enoughOF1975 will become famous soon enoughOF1975 will become famous soon enough
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff View Post
Yeah we need to get off this silly streak on iii it does nothing for the cause at all. Stooping to the level of the very people we are fighting is not the way to win the battle and certainly won't get us anywhere closer to winning the war.

The best way to stop a troll is to ignore them.

Alexander Hanff
Agreed. I think I will give it a wide berth for a few days and let things "settle" for a while unless there is major news.
OF1975 is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:07   #4734
Rchivist
Inactive
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 831
Rchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of Quads
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mark777 View Post
Thanks for this. I had a stooge around myself and amended my earlier post.

Oddly, I got a slightly different list of names from :-

http://www.parliament.uk/parliamenta...ee_members.cfm
Science and Technology committee is now dead. Long live the Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee, which replaces it, and Adam Afriye isn't on it anymore, but Tim Boswell is.
http://www.parliament.uk/parliamenta...us/members.cfm

The old S&T site still exists.
http://www.parliament.uk/parliamenta...ee_members.cfm
and its dissolution is described here
http://www.parliament.uk/parliamenta..._committee.cfm
Rchivist is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:14   #4735
AlexanderHanff
Permanently Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,028
AlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful one
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

So basically the Home Office have just stated:

"Our public statement was not based on any technical analysis or any legal analysis and is in fact not even worth the paper it is printed on. Phorm's shares are worth more than our statement, please ignore it."

Of course the irony here is that they state only the courts can make a legal judgement, yet they refuse to investigate the issue either themselves or through the police they control, in order to get the courts to make a judgement in the first place.

Alexander Hanff
AlexanderHanff is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:18   #4736
jelv
Inactive
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 128
jelv is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Are we heading towards a judicial review in to the refusal of the HO and police to investigate?
jelv is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:23   #4737
AlexanderHanff
Permanently Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,028
AlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful oneAlexanderHanff is the helpful one
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jelv View Post
Are we heading towards a judicial review in to the refusal of the HO and police to investigate?
I don't think it is going to come to that. The Home Office or the Police (under the instruction of the Home Office) will have to take action eventually, their position is completely untenable. With pressure from Europe, MPs, Lords and the Public, they really have no choice.

They will drag their heals and throw hissy fits first, but eventually something will be done.

That's my opinion anyway.

Alexander Hanff
AlexanderHanff is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:30   #4738
OF1975
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stazi Republic of Phormistan
Posts: 329
OF1975 will become famous soon enoughOF1975 will become famous soon enoughOF1975 will become famous soon enough
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

My letter to the computer crime unit of the met police should have landed on their desk this morning. Will let ya'll know if anything comes of it. Lets just say that I aren't holding my breath.
OF1975 is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:31   #4739
Rchivist
Inactive
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 831
Rchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of QuadsRchivist has a fine set of Quads
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff View Post
So basically the Home Office have just stated:

"Our public statement was not based on any technical analysis or any legal analysis and is in fact not even worth the paper it is printed on. Phorm's shares are worth more than our statement, please ignore it."

Of course the irony here is that they state only the courts can make a legal judgement, yet they refuse to investigate the issue either themselves or through the police they control, in order to get the courts to make a judgement in the first place.

Alexander Hanff
I have this 70 year old picture of a BT executive in front of a microphone at Heston Aerodrome, saying

"...the settlement of the Phorm/Webwise problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all of the internet may find Phorm. This morning I didn't have another talk with Home Office, but here is the paper which bears Simon Watkin's name upon it although not mine, (waves paper to the PhormPRTeam - receiving loud cheers and "Hear Hears" ). Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains but I would just like to read it to you ...".

Later, from the dock of the court, the same executive, holding the same note, says, "My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Telecom executive has returned from Ertugrul bringing Phorm with honour. I believe it is Phorm for our time."

Apologies to Wikipedia. Permission for reproduction granted.
Rchivist is offline  
Old 24-04-2008, 17:43   #4740
The Other Steve
Inactive
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13
The Other Steve is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff View Post

They will drag their heals and throw hissy fits first...

Alexander Hanff
Probably for just long enough to make sure their own behinds are covered.

I think it's significant that they have taken pains, once again, to emphasise the actual status of the HO note. (e.g. it means essentially squat.)

It's not enough, but at least it seems that they are washing their hands of any responsibility for the reassurances of legality that BT/Phorm?et al claim to have had.

So, no Offcom, ICO is actually investigating them*, and no HO note.

I forget, who else did they say they'd asked ? Oh well, back to the letter writing.


*stop sniggering.
The Other Steve is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 23:30.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum