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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				...Why do I get the nasty feeling that "seven" is merely the crystalline flake on the very peak of a sodding big iceberg??? 
			
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 Bzzz just scanned your input on this page through my phorm detector shows me a few things according to my super unique database profiling    heres your ad's for geology,chocolate,and impact on the north pole report.
 
Totally relevant advertising wouldnt you just love it   
or is there deeper keylogging kit locked away in source code ooo   .
 
Most likely would be the same old totally irrelevant coming down to which advertiser paid biggest wonga as ever. 
Phorm fail yet again, if anyone would like to point out 1 reason anyone from phorm whishes to spin on what benefit it has id be glad to take it apart for them in normal users speak.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			23-04-2008, 18:34
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 OMFG - that paper has made my day. 
 
Can I draw everyones attention to paragraph 43. to parapharase, having established Phorm's cookie system is false representation it only remains for a jury to decide if it is dishonest. I think that is going to be an easy case for any prosecutor to make. Just read the jury all the security advisorys on 121media.
 
On a more serious note. I shall be sending this hardcopy to my mp to read. keep the pressure up etc.
 
The paper also states that directors and  managers are criminally liable if RIPA is breached by them in deploying Phorm. Make sure you remind every senior customer service representative you speak to, get them nervous as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			23-04-2008, 18:39
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				OMFG - that paper has made my day. 
			
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			Be intersting to see share price tommorow   .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Don't forget to Digg, Stumbleupon, etc this!  I've posted it to reddit already.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				wouldnt it be just a nice slice of cake with cream topping     to issue  a named person  injunction on these same directors and managers ,as iv been saying for a while now    ,alexander, did those books by any chance clarify those howto points, and about potentially using the SC to do it?.  
			
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 I've sent those links over to BT Beta forums so they can enjoy the deep feeling of utter joy too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			23-04-2008, 18:57
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			posted a link on ISPreview   
---------- Post added at 17:57 ---------- Previous post was at 17:56 ----------
Hello PhormUKPRteam care to read the link and give us the spin version ASAP please.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				...Why do I get the nasty feeling that "seven" is merely the crystalline flake on the very peak of a sodding big iceberg??? 
			
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 I know that ivillage is part of an online points scheme.  You may well find that the other participants in this scheme are tied in with OIX as well...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Wouldn't buy anything advertised by Phorm system since doing so helps to link who you are to the cookie..
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Hello PhormUKPRteam care to read the link and give us the spin version ASAP please.    
			
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 It's ironic that the PhormUKPRteam are probably being paid masses better than most county cricket spin bowlers to purvey undeniably vastly inferior spin...
 
Reading through this I don't see much room for spin to be honest.
 
This is good stuff, I'm taking it with me now while I pop out to get something to celebrate St George's Day.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I've popped the story on digg.. 
http://digg.com/security/FIPR_asks_H...g_Phorm_advice
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You really should explain to your client (Kent) that it is not a good idea for him to try and play the PR role, especially when he has hired professionals to do the job for him.  His behaviour in public makes your function in this whole sordid affair much more difficult. 
 
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				So, have we all written to the Attorney General to ask her what action is to be taken to bring BT to account for the illegal interception of web communications in 2006 and 2007? 
			
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 I followed the email route to the Attorny General's Office. This is, I'm afraid, what was said...
 
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// MY EMAIL // 
In 2006 and 2007 BT now openly admits that it secretly intercepted thousands of their customer's communications.  They repeatedly state that no personal information was retained or used but I do not understand why this precludes them from investigation and possibly prosecution because as I understand it, the interceptions they carried out are in direct contravention of the law, according to 'RIPA'
  
The Information Commissioner directed complaints to the Home Office.  The Home Office has stated that they have no investigatory powers and cannot require an investigation by the police.  I have seen no indications that BT customers who know they were affected have achieved any action from their local police services.
  
I therefore write to you to ask whom is responsible for ensuring that the actions of individuals and the BT plc company are properly investigated because it would appear that this is being ignored.  If they broke the law, this cannot be allowed to remain unchecked.
  
What steps have been taken already?  What process is being followed?
  
Thank you. 
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// EMAIL FROM NAMED INDIVIDUAL  xxxxx.xxxxx@attorneygeneral.gsi.gov.uk //
 
Thank you for your email to the Attorney Generals Office, your email has been passed to me for reply.
  
The Attorney General is principal legal advisor to government and as such is unable to offer legal aid or assistance to individuals, this office does not perform a investigatory function and in regards to your request we are unable to assist.
  
If you feel a crime has been committed then you should contact your local police authority for them to investigate.  If you have not already tried them you could also contact the Office of Telecommunications Ombudsman, their web site address is  www.otelo.org.uk
 
Yours Sincerely 
  
Correspondence Unit  
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So, who are we saying should actually be doing something about investigating and bringing BT to account for this???
 
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