Time for the CRT to go in the Bin!

[nicke261192]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

why do you recommend a not so well known brand name?

Because if your on a budget and the reviews are that good then you cant really grumble for the price

maybe review writters are none deserning as they have bought cheap? you do get what you pay for. If I was to buy a lcd I would buy either a Sony Bravia 1080 or a Panasonic but the go to plasma for bigger screens. Although the cheapos look attractive propositions but you get what you pay for. Cheapos are cheapos for a reason most likely old tech thats second rate to new tech

[BenMcr]

I've got a Samsung LE32R87BDX, thought it is only 720P

http://www.beyondtelevision.co.uk/th...uct.asp?ID=878

I think it is fantastic. Looks really good and the SD picture on it is really good. HD even better

We are talking a 15" CRT that I had to attack old PC speakers to when the sound went guys!

I know what a RGB scart is, but what’s a digital box. I only receive analogue how will that help

A Digital Box would be a Digital STB from Virgin i.e. their current TV service.

[Halcyon]

I quite like the Samsung LCD's if I had to choose one out of the many out there.
At 32" you don't really need 1080p unless you have a very very fine eye for detail.
Go higher than 32" and then it becomes more important.

[Matth]

Got a 32" Tevion from Aldi - the 3 year warranty is quite a plus. One word of warning, no preprogrammed multi-remotes support it, though the code is compatible with learning remotes. Even the Tevion touchscreen remote does not directly support the Tevion TV!

They re-ran a 32" a while ago, but the current model is a 42", though you might find a store has stock of a 32".

If you want to get DVB-T channels, then you need a reasonably good terrestrial antenna - you will NOT get DVB-T on the VM co-ax, and it's quite possible that VM will turn their analog passthrough channels off at some point, maybe coinciding with the area analog switch-off if not sooner.

[march.brown]

Originally Posted by nicke261192

If you have your heart set on a LCD TV then I would suggest going for a not so well known name such as this here: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134824

Its a 32" and it has 65 very good reviews

I have baught quite alot from ebuyer and i find that their customer service is excellent

It also looks alot like the Samsung i have that cost 4 x as much allthough mine is 50" lol

If you go for the better known make , you should get a screen with no dead pixels ... If you go for a cheaper , less well known name , you may get a second grade screen that is unacceptable to the better known makes ... Check the very small print to see the permissable number of dead pixels and their position and proximity to each other on the face of the screen ... It is in the warrantee somewhere as a sort of get-out clause ...

Some say three and some say five dead pixels are allowed ... These may not be apparent to the user unless he is able to bring up the three primary colours onto the screen ... If you find that you have a screen with a couple of dead pixels , there could be nothing worse than being told that 'they are allowed three dead pixels according to the specification' ...

LCD TVs are getting better and cheaper and in todays economic climate you should be able to get a very good deal ...

LCD TVs should come down even more in the future when the new OLCD TVs come on the scene ... These Organic Light Emitting Diode screens are only 3mm thick and don't need any backlighting so consume less power ... Once they are developed in larger sizes , the wealthy users will be buying these as they are not much thicker than wall-paper ... This will bring down the prices of LCD TVs even further but not for a couple of years ... I think these new LCD TVs should be called ''Orgasmic LEDs'' not Organic ...

Good luck with your shopping ...
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[Stuart]

Originally Posted by nicke261192

If you have your heart set on a LCD TV then I would suggest going for a not so well known name such as this here: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134824

Its a 32" and it has 65 very good reviews

I have baught quite alot from ebuyer and i find that their customer service is excellent

It also looks alot like the Samsung i have that cost 4 x as much allthough mine is 50" lol

That TV appears to have quite a bad contrast ratio..

Also, one thing worth asking. What is the after-sales service like? I've heard a lot of bad reports about ebuyer. While these may or may not be accurate, at least with a known brand, you know you can easily go back to the manufacturer if your TV goes wrong and the reseller doesn't want to know.

[nswatman]

Originally Posted by nicke261192

Because if your on a budget and the reviews are that good then you cant really grumble for the price

Just be cautions. Reviews found on Website are often not reviews at all. Marketing is a clever thing. I know many small companies who do their own reviews and I am sure even the big one do it too.

[Jules]

I am very confused now, we are hoping (well I am loved one just needs some gentle persuasion lol) to get a larger tele later this year and I thought it was just a case of going and seeing what one I liked but there is all this talk about ratios and pixels, CRT and LCD I am totally lost now lol.

[Stuart]

Pros and Cons of different technologies


LCD
Pros:
Low power consumption.
Can give good pictures
HD capable screens are easy to get
Cost
Size (Large screens are still relatively thin)

cons:
Cheaper screens can suffer smearing in scenes with a lot of action.
Screens can have bad contrast
Can have a bad viewing angle (the picture may be good if you are looking straight at it, but what happens when you are slightly off centre).

Plasma
Pros:
Good picture quality
Excellent viewing angle
HD screens easy to obtain
Size (Large screens are still relatively thin)

cons:
Power consumption (Plasma uses twice the power of an equivalent size CRT and 4 times the power of an equivalent size LCD).
Cost

CRT
Pros:
Excellent picture quality (IMO beats plasma assuming the resolution is the same).
Good viewing angle.
Cost (it's seen as "Yesterday's Tech" so it's a lot cheaper)

Cons:
Power Consumption
Size (CRTs tend to be a lot deeper than LCDs or plasmas so take up a lot more space).
Availabilty (CRTs are increasingingly hard to obtain, especially HD compatible ones). Partly because of this, CRTs aren't really practical for screen sizes larger than 32 inch.

Can't really comment on OLED, as there aren't a lot of TVs using it at the moment, and I haven't seen one in the flesh.

Supposedly it offers a picture comparable to CRT with a power consumption lower than that of LCD, and even at large screen sizes should be thinner than LCDs or Plasmas.

Also, just to confuse you further, I read a while back that one of the large Electronics companies (Samsung I think) was working on "Short Necked CRTs" that offered all of the advantages of CRT, and HD but in a package that is considerably thinner than a standard CRT.

[Jules]

Thanks from that I can see I have a lot to think about, I would like something that is 42+ in size and from what you have said I think I may be better getting a plasma though I would have liked a crt.

I finally replaced all my old CRT TV's this week with a new 26" LCD and a 37" LCD, I already have a 32" LCD from last year.

[Ntlcable]

Lots of good infomation guys thanks. But still trying to get an answer to this:

Originally Posted by BenMcr

If you do get a Flat Panel TV it will be worth getting a digital box and connecting it via RGB scart.

Otherwise, you will get the worst possible picture and it will all be stretchyvision, as analogue only does 4:3 and the TV will be 16:9

What is he talking about a Digital cable box? I only get a analogue signal, won't I still be stuck with 4:3?

[BenMcr]

Yes you will

[march.brown]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Pros and Cons of different technologies


LCD
Pros:
Low power consumption.
Can give good pictures
HD capable screens are easy to get
Cost
Size (Large screens are still relatively thin)

cons:
Cheaper screens can suffer smearing in scenes with a lot of action.
Screens can have bad contrast
Can have a bad viewing angle (the picture may be good if you are looking straight at it, but what happens when you are slightly off centre).

Plasma
Pros:
Good picture quality
Excellent viewing angle
HD screens easy to obtain
Size (Large screens are still relatively thin)

cons:
Power consumption (Plasma uses twice the power of an equivalent size CRT and 4 times the power of an equivalent size LCD).
Cost

CRT
Pros:
Excellent picture quality (IMO beats plasma assuming the resolution is the same).
Good viewing angle.
Cost (it's seen as "Yesterday's Tech" so it's a lot cheaper)

Cons:
Power Consumption
Size (CRTs tend to be a lot deeper than LCDs or plasmas so take up a lot more space).
Availabilty (CRTs are increasingingly hard to obtain, especially HD compatible ones). Partly because of this, CRTs aren't really practical for screen sizes larger than 32 inch.

Can't really comment on OLED, as there aren't a lot of TVs using it at the moment, and I haven't seen one in the flesh.

Supposedly it offers a picture comparable to CRT with a power consumption lower than that of LCD, and even at large screen sizes should be thinner than LCDs or Plasmas.

Also, just to confuse you further, I read a while back that one of the large Electronics companies (Samsung I think) was working on "Short Necked CRTs" that offered all of the advantages of CRT, and HD but in a package that is considerably thinner than a standard CRT.

Don't forget that Plasma screens still suffer from ''Screen-burn'' unless previously run in ... I have seen the effect and it can ruin a screen in just a few hours of use ... Stick with LCD , they are improving all the time ... Even the size is improving , though for normal use the thity-odd and forty-odd inch screen sizes are readily available ... LCD advantages greatly outweigh the disadvantages ... Come to think of it , I can't really think of any disadvantages of LCD ...
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