Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[Sirius]

I like this from the Guardian Newspaper

While the controversy will continue as long as Phorm offers its invasive products, one headline summed up what is certain to be the reaction of many typical UK Internet users, from the British newspaper the Guardian: "No amount of PR will convince us to swallow Phorm."

And that is my stance as well

[fidbod]

Hi,

looking at the total trade volume on the London Stock exchange site it is 141,728 for today see

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/e...%20B1WTNC4PHRM

This is consistent with two sells of approximately GBP 1 million.

My initial reaction was that it was a single sell that had been reported twice so it would be well worth checking tomorrow.

[mark777]

PhormUKPRteam have been looking in for a bit if anyone has any questions.

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by 3x2

What technology are you referring to?

Echelon I should imagine...

[OF1975]

I see Alexander is showing as being active. If so I just want to say a big thank you to you, Alexander, for all you have done and for attending the meeting last night to be "our voice." That also goes for all others from this forum that attended. Superb job. I cant wait to see if channel 4 news covers the story this evening too.

[CaptJamieHunter]

Originally Posted by OF1975

I see Alexander is showing as being active. If so I just want to say a big thank you to you, Alexander, for all you have done and for attending the meeting last night to be "our voice." That also goes for all others from this forum that attended. Superb job. I cant wait to see if channel 4 news covers the story this evening too.

Hear hear! And if anyone does see and record a C4 news feature on it could they please upload it?

Started looking over the videos now. Maybe Phorm's PR team were looking to see if there was anything they could spin...

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

What's publically known is that the NSA can quite easily break 128bit encryption keys(which is the vast majority of so called secure web traffic) and worse still it's rumoured that 256bit keys are down the pan too.

Phorm don't need to break encryption, they can just use a man in the middle attack. It is much more effective. NSA need to hire Phorm obviously.

[bigboab5]

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

Hear hear! And if anyone does see and record a C4 news feature on it could they please upload it?

Started looking over the videos now. Maybe Phorm's PR team were looking to see if there was anything they could spin...

Uploading it as we speak... should have a link in a few mins.

EDIT...... Just thinking, I have a WMV version of it at just under 6mb, can I upload that to here? Is it too large?

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Seriously I'm just trying to weed out the specifics of why you lot are so anti-phorm and imo it's down to different opinions with the two clans being seperated by

[1] Those who dislike the idea of ISPs profiting off their back.

[2] Those who think this tracks everything they do.

Personally clan[1] know what they are talking about and I'm all for their cause. Those in group [2] need some education on the subject.

ps No I don't troll however most my posts appear to give that impression. I've got to live with it and so do the people around me.

You really need to stop insulting people, whether it is intended or not that is what you are doing, including me.

It doesn't matter what Phorm claim they are doing with the data, it is all about the very fact that they are using Deep Packet Inspection and redirects and fraud to do it. You may not be technically minded but several of us are and we understand -exactly- what the dangers are with Layer 7 tech. The technology can be used to literally do anything Phorm want with your data. They can insert ads for example, or they could sell information that you read a lot about cancer to insurance companies, they could sell information about your sexual preferences, the list is literally boundless. Phorm are completely unregulated.

Why are we concerned? Because we have fundamental human rights which protect us from exactly this type of scenario and they are being ignored. If you don't value what scant rights we still have, that's your problem; I however do value those rights and I will fight tooth and nail to protect them.

I would suggest that instead of "scanning" documents, you actually go and -read- the vast amount of information available.

Alexander Hanff

[CaptJamieHunter]

Originally Posted by mark777

PhormUKPRteam have been looking in for a bit if anyone has any questions.

I'd love to know what changes Mark Ramprakash has made to his batting technique - he's started this season off with another hundred.

Well, you did say "any questions"

[AlexanderHanff]

Hi, yes I am back but I am very tired still hehe.

I can barely walk due to the shoes I was wearing last night, even my blisters have blisters, but hell it was worth it

Alexander Hanff

[kt88man]

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

I'd love to know what changes Mark Ramprakash has made to his batting technique - he's started this season off with another hundred.

Well, you did say "any questions"

I wouldn't look to PhormUKPRteam for the answer... they couldn't even get the weather forecast correct...

[TehTech]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Hi, yes I am back but I am very tired still hehe.

I can barely walk due to the shoes I was wearing last night, even my blisters have blisters, but hell it was worth it

Alexander Hanff

Evening Alexander!

Just 1 question: how does it feel to be a public hero?

I for 1 cannot find words to express how much I am gratefull for what you have & are still doing!

Thanks so much

[AlexanderHanff]

Just a quick update, there is a strong possibility that I will be in the BBC "Click" studio next week regarding Phorm. I just received the invite this afternoon. Another trip to London...

Alexander Hanff

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Originally Posted by TehTech

Evening Alexander!

Just 1 question: how does it feel to be a public hero?

I for 1 cannot find words to express how much I am gratefull for what you have & are still doing!

Thanks so much

I am not a hero, the people who see this technology for what it is and are trying to stop it are the heros. The gentleman who was almost moved to tears in his comments on Phorm at the meeting is a hero. My friend who was good enough to drive me there, hang around at the after meeting gathering and then drive me back is a hero. Simon Davies is a hero. Richard Clayton is a hero. I am just a man fighting for liberty.

Alexander Hanff

[TehTech]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Just a quick update, there is a strong possibility that I will be in the BBC "Click" studio next week regarding Phorm. I just received the invite this afternoon. Another trip to London...

Alexander Hanff

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I am not a hero, the people who see this technology for what it is and are trying to stop it are the heros. The gentleman who was almost moved to tears in his comments on Phorm at the meeting is a hero. My friend who was good enough to drive me there, hang around at the after meeting gathering and then drive me back is a hero. Simon Davies is a hero. Richard Clayton is a hero. I am just a man fighting for liberty.

Alexander Hanff

I'm sure I am not the only person on here who see's it like this too!

Well done to everyone involved, and with this effort, it will be a huge blow to Phorm and hopefully pretty soon legal action can be taken against Phorm & BT, as Dr. Clayton says, it IS illegal, and the sooner someone stops this dead the better it will be for everyone!