All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

[ATMEGA163]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Very good point. Another way to look at this is CF is taken quite seriously by the media outlets as a source of information of cable-related matters - the fact that Phorm post here is an indication of our reputation.

Imagine what it would do to our credibility if we allowed the discussion of how to obtain services without a subscription. A lot of hard work would go down the drain overnight.

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I've said this before and I'll say it again. If VM needed our help in tracking these people down I'm sure they would have already asked us. But no such approach for information has been made by any company or individual.

Because at the end of the day its down to money and resources. There are forums out there openly which discuss these issues wouldn't they have approached them? Its purely for educational purposes only!VM can't do nothing.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by ATMEGA163

There is a line, m8 and you about to cross that line! If i can borrow you mum, sis, daughter would that be ok with you. ???what do you think. I smash your head into a pulp. don't even go there.

i dont see the point in you bringing ppls families into it.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by supremus

I already explained this. You equated the severity of two completely different types of offences simply by virtue of them both being against the law. Clearly this is not the case, but maybe my example was too extreme for you to grasp, so let me try a simpler one. Do you also think stealing a chocolate bar is as bad as stealing a car? I know they're both bad, but are they equally bad? And you have not yet answered whether or not this moral outrage of yours extends to people you know with illegal MP3s on their iPods.

Your taking something I said totally out of context. I said stealing is equally wrong no matter what you steal. Im talking about the word as in what it means, meaning its not ok to steal a bar of chocolate because its so small and less expensive that what a car is.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by ATMEGA163

I dn't like to break any rules here, but as for VOD you can get these services with a modified box but there is a risk that vm can catch on. nuff said. interesting subject this.

Its all purely for educational purposes only modifying boxes and alike.

thats a cop out mate they say that its for educational purposes only to cover themselfs.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

i dont see the point in you bringing ppls families into it.

I did that to make a point.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by shawty

Your taking something I said totally out of context. I said stealing is equally wrong no matter what you steal. Im talking about the word as in what it means, meaning its not ok to steal a bar of chocolate because its so small and less expensive that what a car is.

gotta agree with shawty there.

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Originally Posted by shawty

I did that to make a point.

still i dont agree with that, so plz leave ppls family out of it.

thanks

[shawty]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

gotta agree with shawty there.

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still i dont agree with that, so plz leave ppls family out of it.

thanks

Ok, I will. But it worked 100% like a charm.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by shawty

But its free? I aint corssed no line, Im supplying you with things you dont want to hear because it affects you, when it doesnt affect you its fine, because its free.

lol

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Originally Posted by shawty

Ok, I will. But it worked 100% like a charm.

it may have however some ppl can get very p*ssed off when it comes to ppl bringing their family into it.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by shawty

Your taking something I said totally out of context. I said stealing is equally wrong no matter what you steal. Im talking about the word as in what it means, meaning its not ok to steal a bar of chocolate because its so small and less expensive that what a car is.

That's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, in terms of what the police might or might not find a worthwhile use of their time, and it still doesn't address my iPod question, the answer to which, I would imagine, would somewhat undermine your point, or certainly betray a double standard. I cannot imagine you don't know someone who hasn't downloaded illegal MP3s, probably close friends or family even, but surely you wouldn't take such a black-and-white Judge Dredd-ish approach to their indiscretions, if it doesn't directly affect you?

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

gotta agree with shawty there.

That would probably be a mistake, if you actually read what my point here is.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

lol

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it may have however some ppl can get very p*ssed off when it comes to ppl bringing their family into it.

For me, it has to be done. It proves the point that they are totally selfish and dont care unless it affects them. But I get your point and wont do it again.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by supremus

That's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, in terms of what the police might or might not find a worthwhile use of their time, and it still doesn't address my iPod question, the answer to which, I would imagine, would somewhat undermine your point, or certainly betray a double standard. I cannot imagine you don't know someone who hasn't downloaded illegal MP3s, probably close friends or family even, but surely you wouldn't take such a black-and-white Judge Dredd-ish approach to their indiscretions, if it doesn't directly affect you?

at the end of the day stealing is stealing no matter what it is.

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Originally Posted by shawty

For me, it has to be done. It proves the point that they are totally selfish and dont care unless it affects them. But I get your point and wont do it again.

mate im not trying to have ago im just giving you a friendly word before anyone takes affence.

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Originally Posted by supremus

That's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, in terms of what the police might or might not find a worthwhile use of their time, and it still doesn't address my iPod question, the answer to which, I would imagine, would somewhat undermine your point, or certainly betray a double standard. I cannot imagine you don't know someone who hasn't downloaded illegal MP3s, probably close friends or family even, but surely you wouldn't take such a black-and-white Judge Dredd-ish approach to their indiscretions, if it doesn't directly affect you?

That would probably be a mistake, if you actually read what my point here is.

lol no it wasnt a mistake.

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Originally Posted by ATMEGA163

Because at the end of the day its down to money and resources. There are forums out there openly which discuss these issues wouldn't they have approached them? Its purely for educational purposes only!VM can't do nothing.

MR. Theif has gone all quite now lol

[shawty]

Originally Posted by supremus

That's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, in terms of what the police might or might not find a worthwhile use of their time, and it still doesn't address my iPod question, the answer to which, I would imagine, would somewhat undermine your point, or certainly betray a double standard. I cannot imagine you don't know someone who hasn't downloaded illegal MP3s, probably close friends or family even, but surely you wouldn't take such a black-and-white Judge Dredd-ish approach to their indiscretions, if it doesn't directly affect you?

Ive already stated, there is an open thread on this forum where I have been talking about illegal MP3's. But now that I have supplied you with an answer to my stealing analogy, it now becomes irrelevant? I dont see how, stealing cable is wrong and against he law. Stealing anything is wrong and against the law.

[ATMEGA163]

Originally Posted by shawty

No, your just clearly making something up that I never said. Stealing is stealing, no matter what you steal, it is still wrong.

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Wouldnt you lose your no claims bonus? Can I sleep with your wife/GF/sister/mom at the same time? Hey, its free isnt it?

I'm not the one who started bringing up people family into this, it was the above post. Seems like he is still at school bringing up peoples mum and that. I use to cuss peoples mum when I was at school. Grow up now.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by shawty

Ive already stated, there is an open thread on this forum where I have been talking about illegal MP3's. But now that I have supplied you with an answer to my stealing analogy, it now becomes irrelevant? I dont see how, stealing cable is wrong and against he law. Stealing anything is wrong and against the law.

aye

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Originally Posted by ATMEGA163

I'm not the one who started bringing up people family into this, it was the above post. Seems like he is still at school bringing up peoples mum and that. I use to cuss peoples mum when I was at school. Grow up now.

while he was wrong to bring ppls family into it your no better for stelling cable. two wrongs dont make a right mate.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by ATMEGA163

I'm not the one who started bringing up people family into this, it was the above post. Seems like he is still at school bringing up peoples mum and that. I use to cuss peoples mum when I was at school. Grow up now.

It got the right reaction I was hoping for, maybe I shouldnt have done it, but it shows you up for the person you are.