The Bloke in the PUB says .........

[handyman]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

sorry but i still find it hard to believe.

There is a lot of things on this forum that you can only understand by being a member for a long time and perhaps it helps if you have been an employee of ntl. I've dealt with several of the members that post here at ntl so can verify that they are telling the truth. I was also privy in my role to various documents that showed exactly what was going on behind the scenes.

For instance there are at least 2 people that a very regular posters that write and distribute the software for the cable modems and the digital stb's. Rightly so they avoid being dragged into debates on the exact specification of the systems virgin media now use so that they do not assist scoats that want free cable.

I'd love to have a chat with the digital dailies writer though. When the 'god channel' went down we got an email hours later titled. 'the return of god!'. When you have worked several back to back 12 hour shifts that sort of thing can really tickle you.

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Also, for 50mbit the trial price was £47/month and it had been widely believed (and confirmed by some) that it will also be the price upon release.

Very likely, but he reckons they plan to drop it ASAP.

Originally Posted by slowcoach

Very likely, but he reckons they plan to drop it ASAP.

Well considering it has STM limits i wouldnt class it as worth 47/month anyway

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by GreyWolf

Would it not be prudent to tell there current customers that this is the plan, if we are to believe the above quote....

If customers knew VM plans then surely most customers would stick it out till the upgrades are completed rather than VM loosing hundreds if not thousands of customers, which would mean longer delays for the necessary upgrades....

Thanks for the info.

Can't see them changing a habit of a lifetime.
No doubt retentions will have some hints when they contact leavers.

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Originally Posted by bmxbandit

As rumours go, that sounds very plausible... but given the timescale upon which 10MB is being rolled out, I can't imagine it happening much before xmas.

Current upgrades are wayyyyyyyy behind schedule, you can't sack people then expect the same amount of work to be done by those that remain.
Perhaps OpenReach will finish up lending a hand.

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

sorry but i still find it hard to believe.

Check previous "Bloke in the Pub" messages.
He was pretty reliable before he had a new liver, I hope he is getting back to his old form again.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by slowcoach

Can't see them changing a habit of a lifetime.
No doubt retentions will have some hints when they contact leavers.

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Current upgrades are wayyyyyyyy behind schedule, you can't sack people then expect the same amount of work to be done by those that remain.
Perhaps OpenReach will finish up lending a hand.

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Check previous "Bloke in the Pub" messages.
He was pretty reliable before he had a new liver, I hope he is getting back to his old form again.

mate i think that everyone is misunderstanding what i am saying. im not saying that its not true im just saying that it doesnt sound very convincing the way that you put it.

[techyguy4]

Originally Posted by slowcoach

Prices envisaged post upgrades are:
10Mb/s = £18
20Mb/s = £25
50Mb/s = £37
50Mb/s may be initially priced more when it is introduced until all the upgrades are completed.

Well, that's the information “The Bloke in the Pub� has gleaned by diligently going through the waste baskets, and as history has shown in the past, it's as reliable a method as any other.

What about the 2Mb connection? Is it going to be free?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by techyguy4

What about the 2Mb connection? Is it going to be free?

You never know they might have a Phorm paid-for 2 meg

Sign up to PHORM and they will infest you pc for free whilst giving you a 2 meg connection for free .


you never know

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Zee

Interesting... lets see what happens in the future

The same thing that always happens will happen. the rumours about some really good things happening with Virgin will start appearing. these usually start when BT and SKY start doing some good deals such as SKY paying the £120 it costs you to have a BT line installed, and BT dropping their prices such as £4.95 for their Unlimited Anytime Plan with free caller display.

The last brilliant thing that emerged from Virgin after the long wait to see what it was, was STM, the BPI, and the Phorm spyware.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

You never know they might have a Phorm paid-for 2 meg

Sign up to PHORM and they will infest you pc for free whilst giving you a 2 meg connection for free .


you never know

That is a very good possibility if it is ruled that phorm has to be an opt in only option. which is looking very likely to be. the 2 meg connection will be given free on the understanding that you agree to be opted in and that you agree to taking another service and a fixed term contract.

The master plan makes sense in theory. Once upgraded to docsis 3 a lot of the strain will be removed from the network so once fully implemented a removal of the STM could well happen. However I see that as a temporary thing also as VM will no doubt also have in their plan the sign up of many more customers and they will get that with the higher speeds for what is a fairly low cost. Lets not forget most VM customers are relatively happy with their BB so an influx of customers with the new plan will occur. Then over course we will have the same problem maybe in a year or 2 but it is inevitable VM will congest the upgraded network and STM no doubt will be reintroduced.
I see no reason to dismiss the OP as if I was running VM that pretty much would be my immediate business plan for BB

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

I see no reason to dismiss the OP as if I was running VM that pretty much would be my immediate business plan for BB

I see no reason to dismiss the next few OP's who start a thread about what the bloke in the pub says is going to happen. because there's always going to be someone who agrees that's what they would do too if they were running VM.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I see no reason to dismiss the next few OP's who start a thread about what the bloke in the pub says is going to happen. because there's always going to be someone who agrees that's what they would do too if they were running VM.

I didnt dismiss is cuz on an intellectual view it sounds feasible. A lot of what people come out with on here is so obviously utter tosh. I am not one of the many pratts who frequent this forum

[Taf]

Someone on Usenet was complaining about being STM'd in the middle of the day.. the response was something like "no trials of this in YOUR area at this moment"...

I was only getting quarter speed for a big chunk of daylight hours, then it suddenly "resolved itself"... so AFAIC they are playing with something they are going to introduce at some point... high published speeds, but STM'd if you download "Too Much"....

I think its a good plan Maybe trax might know alittle more seems know alot

[slowcoach]

As we have seen from previous information from “The Bloke in the Pub�, he has been known to be wrong. All he can do is pass on current thinking, circumstances may require VM to change to Plan B tomorrow or next week.

VM know that they don't have the option of doing nothing, paying for the Virgin name together with the following advertising campaigns has not produced the benefits expected and hopes of finding a buyer were dashed with the credit crunch.

One of the few remaining options VM have available to them is to offer an unrivalled broadband service in the hope that customers will flock to them taking up the option of VM's other services as well, as we have seen in the past there is no guarantee that any new strategy will work but then business is all about taking risks.

Thanks for passing on the boozer's current musings, Slowcoach.
Makes for at least some 'light at the end of the tunnel' for a lot of us with the whole STM thing going on right now.