All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down - Page 16

Druchii · 12-04-2008, 00:37

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Originally Posted by supremus

But, as I said, an insignificant one. When have you ever been charged 4 month's subscription due to other people's piracy? In fact, when have you ever had any ill effects as a result of someone else's TV piracy?

Bad local network interference due to a dodgy box nearby with dodgy cabling (which was run by the dodgy box owner)

Well, that's my experience.

the-cable-guy · 12-04-2008, 00:38

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Originally Posted by Doofy

I Believe that would have been me. I did get it sorted out but not with VM's help. tbh there are plenty of people around here with cloned modems still up and running i simply do not care anymore. It is a long and painful process to report anyone and quite frankly a complete waste of time VM simply will not do anything about this. Still winds me up that i have to pay, or should i say choose to pay for my services, while they are getting away scot free but i guess thats the way it is going to be.

well at least its not as bad as it is in America you can get cable for free over there using tin foil lol

supremus · 12-04-2008, 00:45

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Originally Posted by Doofy

Still winds me up that i have to pay, or should i say choose to pay for my services, while they are getting away scot free but i guess thats the way it is going to be.

I can't really get too worked up about someone else leeching something I pay for, as long as it doesn't have a direct effect on me. If this was someone I had an issue with over something else, turning him in might be quite good fun, but there are so many people getting away with various scams, you can't really take them all on, though you are certainly well within your rights to try.

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

whether i have or not is my own business.

Heh, I'll take that as a no, then.

SMHarman · 12-04-2008, 00:47

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

well at least its not as bad as it is in America you can get cable for free over there using tin foil lol

Maybe in some parts but the analog networks and chokes are going fast. Major metro areas are all digital cable.

the-cable-guy · 12-04-2008, 00:55

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Originally Posted by supremus

Heh, I'll take that as a no, then.

you like to twist my words dont you

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

Maybe in some parts but the analog networks and chokes are going fast. Major metro areas are all digital cable.

true however alot of ppl are yet to move to digital so in some parts of America there is still a high demand for analogue cable.

supremus · 12-04-2008, 01:04

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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

you like to twist my words dont you

At least they were your words this time... or lack or words, rather.

12-04-2008, 01:12

Have they found a fix yet? Where there's a will, there's a way.

handyman · 12-04-2008, 01:15

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Some people are just *aherms*...simple as that really? in a rough area they expect everything for free...

If you have been with Vigin/ntl for a while then the chances are I've probably spoken with you as I used to cover that area in faults.

FYI for those reading several of the areas in Nottingham used to be only covered for faults if we could send techs out in two's for safety. Even the Firefighters used to get attacked.

I'll again; there is nothing to stop Virgin from being able to detect illegal activity and stop it. The bean counters look at the figures and decide if its practical and financially beneficial to try sort it out. With the right attitude and owners the cable network has a lot to offer.

TheCrow · 12-04-2008, 01:29

One thing that comes to mind.

If someone has the intelligence to "hack" a cable box and use it chances are they have the ability to clone a modem and use it. So reporting the people on here saying they can hack cable tv could turn out to be a pretty pointless.

nopcode · 12-04-2008, 02:12

Isn't the "intelligence" needed to hack a non virgin/sky/ex ntl/telewest box negated by the auto updates those boxes do, or can be made to do.

I've led a sheltered life and have never heard about those other boxes until today, when a co-worker who I held in high respect actually asked me for a certain cable to do something to his illegal box to get his tv back.

Changed my opinion of him since reading about the code changing thing.

Still, people cant complain if someone "stealing" bandwidth via any means, drops their download speeds for 20mbit to say 2mbit on illegal torrent downloads at peak times

The irony is pretty annoying, even for me.

frogstamper · 12-04-2008, 02:33

As far as I can see these thieves who steal cable can come on here and try and justify its a victimless crime as much as they like, the bottom line is that the majority of CF posters pay for their services basically because that's what decent people do in this life, if I were one of the thieves I would be ashamed to come on a public forum boasting about how clever I was because I steal. As one of the thieves is so fond of saying, that's my FINAL VERDICT.

nopcode · 12-04-2008, 02:48

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

As far as I can see these thieves who steal cable can come on here and try and justify its a victimless crime as much as they like, the bottom line is that the majority of CF posters pay for their services basically because that's what decent people do in this life, if I were one of the thieves I would be ashamed to come on a public forum boasting about how clever I was because I steal. As one of the thieves is so fond of saying, that's my FINAL VERDICT.

I agree, especially when they could get a new customer deal thats way cheaper than long term customers would get.

Talk about getting something for almost nothing. gees

supremus · 12-04-2008, 03:20

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

As far as I can see these thieves who steal cable can come on here and try and justify its a victimless crime as much as they like, the bottom line is that the majority of CF posters pay for their services basically because that's what decent people do in this life, if I were one of the thieves I would be ashamed to come on a public forum boasting about how clever I was because I steal. As one of the thieves is so fond of saying, that's my FINAL VERDICT.

I think in your blind, ill-informed fit of self-righteous outrage, you have misunderstood something along the way. I don't even have cable, nor have I in any way condoned stealing of such services, I'm just saying the effects of doing so are relatively insignificant, and in the case of those who pay for a minimum subscription, arguably beneficial to the cable companies. Anyway, can I assume you're one of those people who have never done any speeding, downloaded mp3s, movies, TV shows or broken any laws whatsoever? Stamped on any frogs, perhaps? That's gotta be illegal.

**Mick** · 12-04-2008, 03:41

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Originally Posted by supremus

I think in your blind, ill-informed fit of self-righteous outrage, you have misunderstood something along the way.

I actually thought he made a pretty good point and it definitely wasn't a... 'blind, ill-informed fit of self-righteous outrage', as you put it.

supremus · 12-04-2008, 03:45

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Originally Posted by Mick

I actually thought he made a pretty good point and it definitely wasn't a... 'blind, ill-informed fit of self-righteous outrage', as you put it.

There was the issue of me supposedly being a thief, which seemed to be caused mostly by his outrage about this whole thing, and it certainly falls under the ill-informed category, considering my comments in this thread. It also remains to be seen if he really is as virtous as he claims with regards to not breaking any laws. If he isn't, that would somewhat undermine his would-be good point.

Still, it's late, so bygones.