All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

haha sounds quite funny actually.

It isnt so funny when your on ur own and have no backup, you either have to get out of there quickly or face the biggest beating of your life.

I know a few who have been beaten as well.

[the-cable-guy]

i guess that they guard their connections with their lives then hay.

Some people are just *aherms*...simple as that really? in a rough area they expect everything for free...

[supremus]

Originally Posted by TraxData

No, im saying it was in a rough area where literally the whole street was stealing both cable tv and BB which i and another had the misfortune to go disconnect them, out of 26 houses there was only 2 legal connections.

You'd have to say that's a pretty extreme example, though, right? Perhaps there was a trader in the area? I take it not all 24 offenders were arrested/prosecuted? As I said, it seems unbelievable to me that Virgin would waste time and money going after individuals like that, particularly ones who are paying for a minimum subscription, though disconnecting a whole street of offenders without subscriptions seems like a worthwhile approach, certainly if they're stealing broadband.

And yes all 24 either came out with bats, poles orsomething they could hit you with, it was more than scary.

You can ask around, quite a few techs have been in that position, its even worse if you try and disconnect a gypsy for example.

I'm not saying it isn't true, I was just questioning the specifics, given my confusion about the apparent contradiction in terms of who said what.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Some people are just *aherms*...simple as that really? in a rough area they expect everything for free...

not everyone does mate you cant judge a book by its cover. i live in a council estate & i dont expect everything for free, far from it. however i do expect to get what i have paid for & iv had nowt but trouble from VM. i always pay my bills on time but they have cut me off in the past cuz of their mistakes & its taken me almost three years & five modems later to get a board band connection that is on 24/7 without cutting out at least four times a day. also they messed up my credit ratings cuz they tried to charge me upto four times a month for my broad band, its sorted now like however its taken me over 1 & 1/2 years to get to this stage. however my credit ratings will take alot longer (if ever) to sort out . . . thanks alot VM.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by supremus

No. I think you will find that he has not admitted anything to the police, but rather in a public forum under an assumed alias, and that there is no proof a criminal offence has actually been committed. This is not evidence anyone would take seriously or care about.

Incidentally, I stole a car yesterday. No, two.

I think you will find if you were in a thread about cars being stolen and youa dmited to it, then you the Police might well look into it.

Regardless, if they wanted, the owners of this site could well pass on information if they think anything dodgy is going on to Virgin which in turn could pass it onto the Police. if people are stupid enough to admit to things even though they have not done it, then thats their problem.

[the-cable-guy]

im not being funny here mate but why do ppl feel the need to repeat themselfs over & over again in the same posts ?

[supremus]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

...also they messed up my credit ratings cuz they tried to charge me upto four times a month for my broad band, its sorted now like however its taken me over 1 & 1/2 years to get to this stage.

Yes, this brings us neatly back to my point about how Virgin's own accounting problems have far more of an effect on paying subscribers than cable piracy would have.

Originally Posted by shawty

I think you will find if you were in a thread about cars being stolen and youa dmited to it, then you the Police might well look into it.

Stealing a car is a serious criminal offence. Stealing cable TV is not. Just look at TraxData's story about going to a rough street to disconnect as many as 24 offenders. He didn't go with search warrants and the police, because it's not worth it, unless trying to catch people selling the equipment or services associated with piracy. I think there was even a thread in this very forum some time ago about someone who had phoned his cable company to report a neighbour, and was told they weren't interested,

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by supremus

Yes, this brings us neatly back to my point about how Virgin's own accounting problems have far more of an effect on paying subscribers than cable piracy would have.

mate your missing the point VMs customer service/billing department & ppl getting services for free both have an effect on VMs customers.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

mate your missing the point VMs customer service/billing department & ppl getting services for free both have an effect on VMs customers.

I said "far more of an effect". Broadband I will grant you is a problem, but not cable tv, particularly not where people are paying a minimum subscription.

[the-cable-guy]

an effect is an effect no matter how big or small it is.

[MovedGoalPosts]

Originally Posted by shawty

Regardless, if they wanted, the owners of this site could well pass on information if they think anything dodgy is going on to Virgin which in turn could pass it onto the Police.

I suggest you read the site's terms and conditions for the specific circumstances when Cable Forum might make a complaint to Virgin Media or other authority. Generally that will be for an abuse of this site. Unlike Virgin Media we don't change those terms just because we feel like it

To pass on details for any other reason would breach those terms, and perhaps also be a breach of other privacy rules that have to be respected. Legal stuff protects the legitimate and sometimes the illegitimate too.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

an effect is an effect no matter how big or small it is.

But, as I said, an insignificant one. When have you ever been charged 4 month's subscription due to other people's piracy? In fact, when have you ever had any ill effects as a result of someone else's TV piracy?

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by supremus

Yes, this brings us neatly back to my point about how Virgin's own accounting problems have far more of an effect on paying subscribers than cable piracy would have.

Stealing a car is a serious criminal offence. Stealing cable TV is not. Just look at TraxData's story about going to a rough street to disconnect as many as 24 offenders. He didn't go with search warrants and the police, because it's not worth it, unless trying to catch people selling the equipment or services associated with piracy. I think there was even a thread in this very forum some time ago about someone who had phoned his cable company to report a neighbour, and was told they weren't interested,

I Believe that would have been me. I did get it sorted out but not with VM's help. tbh there are plenty of people around here with cloned modems still up and running i simply do not care anymore. It is a long and painful process to report anyone and quite frankly a complete waste of time VM simply will not do anything about this. Still winds me up that i have to pay, or should i say choose to pay for my services, while they are getting away scot free but i guess thats the way it is going to be.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by supremus

But, as I said, an insignificant one. When have you ever been charged 4 month's subscription due to other people's piracy? In fact, when have you ever had any ill effects as a result of someone else's TV piracy?

whether i have or not is my own business.