All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

[shawty]

Originally Posted by supremus

I guess the lesson here is that you should always read the fine print.

No, that's not evidence, I'm afraid.

Of course it is. If someone openly admits to stealing something, that is massive evidence. If then they are found out they were lying and the matter went to the Police, they would be charged for wasting Police time.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by shawty

Of course it is. If someone openly admits to stealing something, that is massive evidence. If then they are found out they were lying and the matter went to the Police, they would be charged for wasting Police time.

No. I think you will find that he has not admitted anything to the police, but rather in a public forum under an assumed alias, and that there is no proof a criminal offence has actually been committed. This is not evidence anyone would take seriously or care about.

Incidentally, I stole a car yesterday. No, two.

This is a pointless thread.Those that abuse the system will always justify themselves even to the point of downright denial and hugely enjoy all the attention.Either stop talking to these persons or put them on ignore but stop feeding them with attention.


Coggy off to ignore and unsubscribe.

I would also note people ARE being arrested just for using cloned boxes/emu boxes, infact 9 people have been arrested today alone in west yorkshire.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by TraxData

I would also note people ARE being arrested just for using cloned boxes/emu boxes, infact 9 people have been arrested today alone in west yorkshire.

For "admitting" to using illegal boxes on a forum?

Originally Posted by supremus

For "admitting" to using illegal boxes on a forum?

No, VM are working in co-operating with the police to get warrants to search properties for illegal equipment, they can trace you quite easily.

P.S i suppose you could say for admitting on a forum as they have caught people by tracing them through IP's with forums as well.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by piggy

thats maybe so but cable-guy checked his facts on google so he knows

Losttheplot was saying that you can change the CAM using software updates & the like, which while its possible you cant go messing with things like that even if you are a company cuz you'd get sued & in oder for us to use both Videoguard & Nagravision (as Losttheplot was suggesting) we would need two CAMs. also i wouldnt of written what i had about how cable tv works if i hadnt checked up on it first (although i already knew about it before hand). as iv already said im not being funny but some ppl on here dont like to admit when their wrong even when you give them the facts/proof.

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Originally Posted by supremus

No. I think you will find that he has not admitted anything to the police, but rather in a public forum under an assumed alias, and that there is no proof a criminal offence has actually been committed. This is not evidence anyone would take seriously or care about.

Incidentally, I stole a car yesterday. No, two.

exactly unless it can be proven that the ppl that are admitting to it are actuality breaking the law you cant believe that they have. alot of ppl say things to make themselfs look big, so unless you have seen someone illegally using cable you can never know for sure.

[supremus]

Originally Posted by TraxData

No, VM are working in co-operating with the police to get warrants to search properties for illegal equipment, they can trace you quite easily.

I would have thought there were ways to track cloned boxes, but many of the other boxes would be extremely difficult.

P.S i suppose you could say for admitting on a forum as they have caught people by tracing them through IP's with forums as well.

I refuse to believe even Virgin are thick enough to go after individual users in this manner. It is in no way, shape or form cost effective or any kind of effective, unless the people they are going after are selling illegal equipment on a large scale. They would never get a search warrant purely on the basis of forum usage, though, I think places like eBay would probably release the details of people selling illegal equipment.

Anyway, VM customers must at least be happy that they're finally paying some kind of attention to the TV division.

Also, I asked you this earlier, and you didn't reply. How widespread do VM consider piracy to be? I've only just started reading up on it over the last few days when this thread appeared, and my impression is that some of it would actually be beneficial to them. Personally, I know a lot of people who have Virgin TV, but I don't know a single person who uses an illegal box. The-cable-guy's story about whole streets hooked up with illegal cable sounded exaggerated, or at least atypical to me.

[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by TraxData

No, VM are working in co-operating with the police to get warrants to search properties for illegal equipment, they can trace you quite easily.

P.S i suppose you could say for admitting on a forum as they have caught people by tracing them through IP's with forums as well.

as i said a few posts back some ppl use proxies when they surf the web. for example their IP address mite say that their in New York when infact they are in Bristol.

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Originally Posted by supremus

I would have thought there were ways to track cloned boxes, but many of the other boxes would be extremely difficult.

I refuse to believe even Virgin are thick enough to go after individual users in this manner. It is in no way, shape or form cost effective or any kind of effective, unless the people they are going after are selling illegal equipment on a large scale. They would never get a search warrant purely on the basis of forum usage, though, I think places like eBay would probably release the details of people selling illegal equipment.

Anyway, VM customers must at least be happy that they're finally paying some kind of attention to the TV division.

Also, I asked you this earlier, and you didn't reply. How widespread do VM consider piracy to be? I've only just started reading up on it over the last few days when this thread appeared, and my impression is that some of it would actually be beneficial to them. Personally, I know a lot of people who have Virgin TV, but I don't know a single person who uses an illegal box. The-cable-guy's story about whole streets hooked up with illegal cable sounded exaggerated, or at least atypical to me.

lol i never said that there were whole streets hooked up with illegal cable, you misunderstood me completely. all that im saying is that in some parts of the country where i have lived in the past, there are alot of ppl getting cable for free. so plz dont twist my words as i never said what you tried to say that i did.

thanks

[supremus]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

lol i never said that there were whole streets hooked up with illegal cable, you misunderstood me completely. all that im saying is that in some parts of the country where i have lived in the past, there are alot of ppl getting cable for free. so plz dont twist my words as i never said what you tried to say that i did.

thanks

It's hardly unreasonable to get that impression from "the whole street was out in a gang with baseball bats". Are you saying people with no stake in this took up baseball bats and joined the fray just for fun?

[the-cable-guy]

? ya what ?

[supremus]

Originally Posted by the-cable-guy

? ya what ?

My mistake. That story was in fact TraxData's.

[the-cable-guy]

oh ok then i was thinking wtf is he on about then lol

Originally Posted by supremus

It's hardly unreasonable to get that impression from "the whole street was out in a gang with baseball bats". Are you saying people with no stake in this took up baseball bats and joined the fray just for fun?

No, im saying it was in a rough area where literally the whole street was stealing both cable tv and BB which i and another had the misfortune to go disconnect them, out of 26 houses there was only 2 legal connections.

And yes all 24 either came out with bats, poles orsomething they could hit you with, it was more than scary.

You can ask around, quite a few techs have been in that position, its even worse if you try and disconnect a gypsy for example.

[the-cable-guy]

haha sounds quite funny actually.