Bush And Kerry Admitting Skull and Bones Membership + Acting suspicious.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

lololololololololololololol

you clearly have read way to many papers, get your own opinions.

Ive read loads about icke apart from the lizard stuff which is his own opinion to have on history, He talks complete sense and just deals with the Facts.

Unlike you and the media. Why you protect these guys i do question.

The older generation should be ashamed of there ability not to look into things n just using the medias opinion.

This from someone who bases their opinion on debunked conspiracy theory books and youtube?
I do hope you're not representative of the "younger" generation's reasoning ability, as yours is rather lacking.
Seriously, seek medical assistance.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

It is not my job to do research for people however,

Well....yes it is. Common decency and etiquette (and indeed some libel laws) dictate that if you make an allegation, you back it up or it just becomes your opinion (which of course you're entitled to).

For example I could say that you have an unhealthy and personal relationship with watermelons. Doesn't make it true and unless i back it up with evidence (which of course I cannot) then it makes me appear to be clutching at straws.

No-one here is against you (well, apart from BBking maybe) so if you are able to post concrete and unamibiguous evidence then I'm sure you'll have plety of converts to your cause.

[THESHAOLIN1]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Well, knowing people who have actually been there, investigated what happened and who have no love for the US government and who still say that it happened pretty much as told, I'd be inclined to believe them.

Most americans dont really have a clue whats happening with regards to there country i know thousands of americans who support the fact it was an inside job just go on youtube you'll find thousands of videos on it its a massive thing nowadays and Wearchange.org is a website showing how these guys cant even answer basic questions, if they were telling the truth answering questions would be a breeze because its the truth, these guys avoid them and get agitated. I know a liar when i see one. Beyond that the evidence, motive and general facts point at a false flag operation as will be prooven soon.

Also, how do you know that David Icke isn't under the control of a secret society?

i dont i just judge him i judge his information as far as i can see ive read many many books from thousands of different sources n people who have lived all kinda of lives i just try to read as much as i can, and when i found david icke n looked into him n what he was saying i noticed alot of what he spoke about i already knew he just brought some other things to my attention.

None of these guys ever FORCE you to listen they just say look into it where as with the media the reporter just repeats what hes been told to tell you as truth even though they've no idea what the information is, and then you get thousands of people in the UK repeating it as "truth".

Youtube: The site controlled by one of the largest web companies in the world, and surely a tool of the various secret societies?

yep, there also an open source site for videos and they take down videos on these topics all the time, ive posted a video showing a man made bridge built over 175 million years ago over by the sri lanka area few days later it was removed for no reason. Google video has been known for doing this all the time its just people keep uploading stuff, although i know youtubes a **** bag coorporation owned by rupert murdoch that does not change the ability of humans being able to post up pieces of the jig saw puzzle to make the bigger picture form clearer.

I too have researched this, but the videos I have seen (on youtube and other sites) could easily be faked.

Depends what your classing as faked, i find alot of the time the youtube videos regarding 9/11 are just using there own information against them showing how it doesnt add up n must of been a lie because it defies logic and possibility.

Where's the evidence of this?

Theres tons i suggest reading a book first to put things into perspective so you understand the other side to the story then further research to put the jig saw puzzle pieces together. Im sorry to say but 7/7 bombings were done identical on both days there were terrorist bomb drills going on, by the intelligence agencies n other linked groups....is this merely a coincidence on both days and is it merely a coincidence george Senior bush spoke about the new world order on september 11th 10 years before 9/11 happened on the same date....i dont think so.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo << video of him saying it there.


It's obvious that a lot goes on in this world that we are either lied to about, or simply not told about. The conspiracy theories you have spouted, not so obvious.

this is true but whats obvious in a world where your basically told to shut up n get on with it, i find once you start reading the world becomes a very different more bigger deeper place than what your current lifes experiences taught as they are pretty limited

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

This from someone who bases their opinion on debunked conspiracy theory books and youtube?
I do hope you're not representative of the "younger" generation's reasoning ability, as yours is rather lacking.
Seriously, seek medical assistance.

you've no idea what research i have n havnt done. Ive read more books in my lifetime than you probably have yours.

So lets be honest what opinion do you have on the subject other than what the news told you was happening?

[Russ]

I hope you don't mind me taking a sceptic's view on your approach to 9/11.

Although very crude, do a google for 'maddox' (he's always the top search) and read his views. I won't post a link here as his site contains a lot of bad language but his reaction to Loose Change is rather compelling (and, IMO, more believable).

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Seriously, seek medical assistance.

We could say the same thing to people who believe in a god.

[THESHAOLIN1]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Well....yes it is. Common decency and etiquette (and indeed some libel laws) dictate that if you make an allegation, you back it up or it just becomes your opinion (which of course you're entitled to).

For example I could say that you have an unhealthy and personal relationship with watermelons. Doesn't make it true and unless i back it up with evidence (which of course I cannot) then it makes me appear to be clutching at straws.

No-one here is against you (well, apart from BBking maybe) so if you are able to post concrete and unamibiguous evidence then I'm sure you'll have plety of converts to your cause.

evidence of a subject which is kept well under wraps such as this, the evidence comes over time in the form of small jig saw puzzle pieces that like i said eventually build up the bigger picture.

I will keep posting more pieces of evidence im not going out of my way to proove this to anyone, its no gain of mine i know thousands of people though n speak with many about this information and who are in awareness of whats happening.

and i never assumed anyone was against me, but if people cant look into information no matter what it implies they dont have an open mind how ever they wish to split hairs.

Really it isnt my job to do research for people, i just posted this video as its proof alot goes on beyond your vision. The human who cannot openly look at information is also the same guy to just stereotype me foolishly asa conspiracy theorist or nutcase. Which is foolish in itself as i could make endless assumptions about them.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Enuff

We could say the same thing to people who believe in a god.

Yes, yes we could.
Best to do it in a new thread though

[THESHAOLIN1]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I hope you don't mind me taking a sceptic's view on your approach to 9/11.

Although very crude, do a google for 'maddox' (he's always the top search) and read his views. I won't post a link here as his site contains a lot of bad language but his reaction to Loose Change is rather compelling (and, IMO, more believable).

no problem ive seen loose change personally i view it as the eye opener but no way does it cover the extent of the evidence. Theres better videos out there.

i will watch whats mentioned no problem. Most time i notice these debunking videos and articles do not even deal with the main facts just a personal thing ive noticed.

mean while checkout http://youtube.com/watch?v=0gk9sABtJxM <<<its a conference talk with richard dear love which is replies are very interesting.

[Stuart]

Theshaolin, you have assumed I was referring to Americans. I made no reference to their nationality..

It's also interesting to note that you appear to be dismissing what other people are saying without know what research other people (to paraphrase you) "have n haven't done" . I have looked into various conspiracy theories, including the theories you have bought up. I haven't seen a single bit of evidence presented that cannot be disproved.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

evidence of a subject which is kept well under wraps such as this, the evidence comes over time in the form of small jig saw puzzle pieces that like i said eventually build up the bigger picture.

Evidence under wraps...ok.....so if the evidence is not actually 'there' yet, then it's still only a theory, right? Isn't existence of evidence that which makes something a fact?

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

I will keep posting more pieces of evidence im not going out of my way to proove this to anyone, its no gain of mine i know thousands of people though n speak with many about this information and who are in awareness of whats happening.

That's your right of course but please don't come accross as being so defensive when people doubt your views if you will not (or cannot) provide proof.

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

and i never assumed anyone was against me, but if people cant look into information no matter what it implies they dont have an open mind how ever they wish to split hairs.

I think it might be more to do with them having a lot of evidence to support their own theories and ideas so it would be tough to get them to see any other viewpoint if evidence is not produced.

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

Really it isnt my job to do research for people, i just posted this video as its proof alot goes on beyond your vision. The human who cannot openly look at information is also the same guy to just stereotype me foolishly asa conspiracy theorist or nutcase. Which is foolish in itself as i could make endless assumptions about them.

And you'd keep them to yourself of course as all posters on CF need to stick to our T&Cs.

You're right it's not your job to research information for people but do you not think it might give your views more momentum if you did? otherwise this thread will just sink in to the forum history just like all the other conspiracy theory threads we've had which people have not posted evidence in?

If you want to expose these conspiracies, wouldn't it be in your interest to keep them at the front of people's imagination?

[THESHAOLIN1]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Yes, yes we could.
Best to do it in a new thread though

god is supported by faith and has no proof of his existance other than a "holy" book.

Where as this is supported by logic, real life, the events that take place, people who have worked in positions of power to know whats happening, Common sense, Correlating information, The fact the Whole media story was a lie, the War in iraq thats led to an ongoing war, the direction the planets taken and the laws and policies that have changed since these Key events.

not to mention none of the politicans can answer any questions.

and george bush lied about seeing the first plane on tv when he was in a school classroom when the first plane hit.

literally the evidence is unreal i could go on for pages hence i promote each person does there own research.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

you've no idea what research i have n havnt done. Ive read more books in my lifetime than you probably have yours.

So lets be honest what opinion do you have on the subject other than what the news told you was happening?

Yes I do, you've told us, you've read "about" 4 books on 9/11 (so arithmatic is obviously up there with literacy), along with "thousands" of youtube videos.
The number of books is irrelivant, the content is what matters.

Whereas I have studied physics and mathematics to a degree level, know structual, civil and aviation engineers, know people who were on the ground when it happened, have a friend who was actually on the phone to a colleague in one of the upper floors when the first plane struck, and I'm not a gullible loon.

how amusing. The ones who opened a book rather than accepting there governments word for it?

No, the ones who only read books that support their view and do not care that the authors are not experts in the subjects.

[Russ]

On the subject of the thread title, "...and acting suspicious", wasn't a certain Mr De Menezes regarded as 'acting suspiciousl?

[jkat]

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1

The older generation should be ashamed of there ability not to look into things n just using the medias opinion.

respect theshaolini1! lol your falling into the trap of stereotyping the older generations, david icke is of the older generation dont forget. not that i agree with him but we are all entitled to our opinions, peace