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		|  29-02-2008, 10:35 | #31 |  
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			What a grotesque story. Afghanistan has the become the playground for a child like Harry Hewitt. What a despicable act. 
 What next? Get the brat a nuclear bomb set and find a country for him to nuke?
 
 I hear your "hero" calls.....
 
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			had to turn the news off this morn! "a bullet magnet" wtf??? lolol
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					Originally Posted by kronas  ok, in that case why be a soldier at all ? you want to shoot people ? legally ? |  kronas, I'm sorry but this has to be one of the dumbest things I've read for a long time.  Perhaps people choose to join the armed forces to serve their country, or to defend their country in times of need.
 
The fact that our forces have been sent to places like Afghanistan under a (pretty obvious) political motive is neither here nor there - they are doing the job that they signed up to do, train bloomin' hard to do and, by the way, aren't particularly well-paid to do.
 
To suggest that people sign up just so they can 'shoot people legally' is facetious at best, and morally corrupt at worst.  As much as you are entitled to your opinion (which you probably wouldn't be under a regime like the Taliban, by the way), I have to say that, in this instance, your opinion is wrong    
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		|  29-02-2008, 11:58 | #34 |  
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			http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7270743.stm
 
He's coming back now. Maybe it was all set up from the outset to 'repair' his reputation. You know send him out there, blame foreign media for leaking his involvement, and then bring him back under the guise that he can no longer serve in Iraq.
  
People think he's a hero, and he can safely down vodkas back on the Kings Road.
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		|  29-02-2008, 12:30 | #35 |  
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					Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7270743.stm
 
He's coming back now. Maybe it was all set up from the outset to 'repair' his reputation. You know send him out there, blame foreign media for leaking his involvement, and then bring him back under the guise that he can no longer serve in Iraq.
  
People think he's a hero, and he can safely down vodkas back on the Kings Road. |    
I don't think that fair. They succesfully kept almost all the foriegn media away from the story, no doubt the UK Press knew but obeyed a news blackout. He did serve for 10 weeks, and it makes sense to pull him back now the drudge report leaked the information.
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		|  29-02-2008, 12:45 | #36 |  
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			I have an idea: we have the new trident submarines. Nobody can spot him there and the British media could have free and exclusive footage of his heroics under water. You could even have a celebrity pop in, like Chelsi in a bikini to spice things up. He can get training to press a button (he has just about sufficient IQ for such a job), so he could nuke Iran on live TV. The boy deserves another chance, let him play in the privacy of our deep oceans...
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		|  29-02-2008, 12:49 | #37 |  
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					Originally Posted by iglu  I have an idea: we have the new trident submarines. Nobody can spot him there and the British media could have free and exclusive footage of his heroics under water. You could even have a celebrity pop in, like Chelsi in a bikini to spice things up. He can get training to press a button (he has just about sufficient IQ for such a job), so he could nuke Iran on live TV. The boy deserves another chance, let him play in the privacy of our deep oceans... |  I never especially liked Prince Harry either but I see no evidence that this was a stunt and he seems to have been actually serving, on/near the front-line no less. 
 
I think it's wrong to attack/berate him for this. You seem to have a vendetta against him.
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		|  29-02-2008, 13:00 | #38 |  
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					Originally Posted by iglu  I have an idea: we have the new trident submarines. Nobody can spot him there and the British media could have free and exclusive footage of his heroics under water. You could even have a celebrity pop in, like Chelsi in a bikini to spice things up. He can get training to press a button (he has just about sufficient IQ for such a job), so he could nuke Iran on live TV. The boy deserves another chance, let him play in the privacy of our deep oceans... |  <removed - Jefferson T? >
 
Prince Harry is a soldier and wants to do what he is trained for.
 
They wouldn't let him go to Iraq because of the media frenzy. The only way he could go to Afghanistan was by asking for a media blackout. 
 
Now that's out the bag he is being forced to return home. 
 
None of this is Harrys fault.
 
IMO he should be left to carry on out there.
		 
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		|  29-02-2008, 13:16 | #39 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  You make me sick, what an idiot you are.
 Prince Harry is a soldier and wants to do what he is trained for.
 
 They wouldn't let him go to Iraq because of the media frenzy. The only way he could go to Afghanistan was by asking for a media blackout.
 
 Now that's out the bag he is being forced to return home.
 
 None of this is Harrys fault.
 
 IMO he should be left to carry on out there.
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He did not have a shower after 3 days, poor boy. He deserves few booze ups with Chelsi to recover....
 
Harry was bored, he thought playing will live afganis is better than toy soldiers, and the army obliged. What a disgrace....
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		|  29-02-2008, 13:27 | #40 |  
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			Insulting other members WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion.
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		|  29-02-2008, 13:55 | #41 |  
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					Originally Posted by Nidge  Has been on the frontline in Afgahnistan, well done to him. He's not affraid of getting his hands dirty.
 Well done to him.
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		|  29-02-2008, 14:17 | #42 |  
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					Originally Posted by kronas  ok, in that case why be a soldier at all ? you want to shoot people ? legally ? |  I really think you should find reasons for people who sign up to the armed forces.  I have friends in the army and Royal Marines and reasons they signed up were: 
1. Travel - get postings around the world 
2. Adventure/Sports 
3. A career for life 
4. Serving their counrty
  
Once the invasion of Afghanistan and later Iraq happened, reasons for them staying is that they are there for the guys around them, not wanting to let them down.  I don't think you can dismiss the loyalty soldiers have to their mates and the regiment as a whole.  It is after all the reasoning behind the regiments.
  
I think, if you are to blame anyone for the wars then blame yourself, you are part of a system that has elected the government that embarked on and has continued their policy in Iraq and Afghanistan.  All the soldiers are doing is obeying the orders of the politcial masters that you (and the rest of us here as a collective) re-elected.  We cannot have a situation where the military decide where and when to fight, they must always be subservient to the elected government.
  
As for Harry fighting in Afghanistan, I think its great he has managed to serve his country, and admire him and all other members of the armed forces who do a tough job for little, if any thanks.
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		|  29-02-2008, 14:22 | #43 |  
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					Originally Posted by tweetypie/8  why not ? a lot of the other guys have no say in the matter they are just sent end of. |  They waned to join the army...
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He did not have a shower after 3 days, poor boy. He deserves few booze ups with Chelsi to recover....
 
Harry was bored, he thought playing will live afganis is better than toy soldiers, and the army obliged. What a disgrace.... |  So really, it's just personal, you refuse to give credit in any case because you already made your mind up?
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		|  29-02-2008, 14:42 | #44 |  
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			This thread has staggered me witrh some of the comments people are making.  Kronas i am not really sure what to say to you that wouldn't get me banned for life but you really need to get a reality check.  So many people hating a young man trying to do what he has always wanted to do is trained to do and trying to do for me is so pathetic.  
 If i had been in harry's position would i have been any better no i wouldn't he lost his mother at an early age has played second fiddle to his older brother and so decided to get some fun out of life.  As for "soldiers are just political pawns" er well done finally figured it out have we.  Soldiers have always been pawns but thats not why they are soldiers, They are soldiers because they have belief in something and are prepared not just to sit in an armchair and say they get up and do something about it.
 
 When deployed soldiers don't think a lot about politicians and their reasoning they think about home they think about family and friends and they care about the guys they are with i see nothing but good in that.  People have a problem with the politicians take it up with them DO NOT insult or use our armed forces personnel to try and make a point against politicians you only show yourself to be stupid and you do a great disservice to a bunch of this country's best.
 
 For me this thread has been the best reason i have ever seen to bring back natioanl service so maybe in the future people can make sensible comments on our armed forces.
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					Originally Posted by Damien  So really, it's just personal, you refuse to give credit in any case because you already made your mind up? |  No really. 
 
It was another "reality" show staged for Harry's benefit. We are eagerly waiting for him to come back to Chelsea and boast about his "real" fighting experience. 
 
Did you see him playing with an automatic machine gun, in front of the filming crews? How cool is that going to be to be replayed in Mahiki in front of the Chelsea birds, with psychedelic music, visual effects, fake smoke and all that. I hear Guy Pelly is setting up a replica  in Mahiki, for him to demonstrate to the birds how bravely served his country.
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