Best steer clear of Bradford then.....

[Osem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...news=1&bbcws=1

[papa smurf]

wow 57% that alarming ,wonder why its so high in Bradford[my boss lives there ill check him out]and the chap at the end didnt have a licence.

This is becoming a big problem all over the country. I normally check the "Before the Bench" section of my local free paper, and about 40/50% of offences that are in there are due to driving without insurance/licence/tax/mot.

Shocking! But if you do the math, the fine for driving without insurance is usually cheaper than buying the insurance. That doesn't make it ok, but it will give people the insentive to do it if they're going to save money. Unfortunately, it doesn't save lives.

[BBKing]

Bad BBC reporting again - the report (which is perfectly fine) says the 57% figure applies to 'some districts of Bradford' but the headline says 'most drivers uninsured', which is a different and unsupported claim.

Still, it's a valid use of numberplate recognition in my book, and should actually work as a deterrent. Driving around with a numberplate is part of the deal of being allowed on the road, and the point of the numberplate is to link the car with the person driving it. No civil liberties problem there.

[greencreeper]

It'll be because the majority of the population originated from countries where driving is just something you do - no laws, regulation, or safety.

Originally Posted by greencreeper

It'll be because the majority of the population originated from countries where driving is just something you do - no laws, regulation, or safety.

What - the USA?

btw, from the article
"The Motor Insurers' Bureau (MIB) said the BD3 postcode area had 4,403 uninsured vehicles, which equates to 57.3% of all vehicles in that area" (BD8 wasn't much better, tbf)

That, imho, is like saying because Haringey has 8 times more burglaries than the national average, London has 8 x the burglaries.

[papa smurf]

perhaps if more recognition technology was employed, and more vehicles removed from the roads we legal drivers could ,actualy get somewhere without sitting in jams for hours ,and allso the government could get rid of tolls and congestion charges.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

allso the government could get rid of tolls and congestion charges.

No chance. And how do you think the Mp's, councillors and family workers are going to pay for their massive pay rises this year ?.

[jkat]

its the high cost of insurance that just feeds more high cost, i also believe there are a lot of uninsured drivers amognst the luxury car market, some costing £20,000+ a year to insure. lets hope if the police are successful then car insurance should start to come down in price??

[Osem]

Originally Posted by jkat

its the high cost of insurance that just feeds more high cost, i also believe there are a lot of uninsured drivers amognst the luxury car market, some costing £20,000+ a year to insure. lets hope if the police are successful then car insurance should start to come down in price??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...248174&bbcws=1

Problem is some of these drivers have decided to use foreign plates to avoid detection

[jkat]

Originally Posted by Osem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...248174&bbcws=1

Problem is some of these drivers have decided to use foreign plates to avoid detection

yes that also is true!

[Osem]

Not sure what the legal situation is but maybe it should be illegal to drive around in a foreign registered car without verifiable proof of insurance.

It's not illegal to have no insurance as long as you can prove you have the means to pay if you cause damage, injury or death. The Police, fire brigade and ambulance service don't have insurance for their vehicles, they have a pot of about £500million, this is to cover them in case they have an accident or cause and accident, my landlord was on about the same thing the other week, he's in the Police force doing what they were doing in the video clip, he went onto talk about the technology they have in their cars, he said as soon as the ANPR kicks in with a alert within a split second he's got all the information on the car, the owner, a picture of the owner, the owners past, if the car has an MOT, tax etc etc.

He added there's no getting away now with the technology thats available to the Police.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Nidge

It's not illegal to have no insurance as long as you can prove you have the means to pay if you cause damage, injury or death. The Police, fire brigade and ambulance service don't have insurance for their vehicles, they have a pot of about £500million, this is to cover them in case they have an accident or cause and accident, my landlord was on about the same thing the other week, he's in the Police force doing what they were doing in the video clip, he went onto talk about the technology they have in their cars, he said as soon as the ANPR kicks in with a alert within a split second he's got all the information on the car, the owner, a picture of the owner, the owners past, if the car has an MOT, tax etc etc.

He added there's no getting away now with the technology thats available to the Police.

So the people in the clip are being prosecuted for not having the money to pay for accidents they haven't caused yet? Or am I missing something (that's not impossible btw )

Re getting away with it - the system isn't foolproof -surely if someones using cloned plates for example the ANPR system won't register a lack of insurance unless the 'donor' vehicle isn't isnured either.

Originally Posted by Osem

So the people in the clip are being prosecuted for not having the money to pay for accidents they haven't caused yet? Or am I missing something (that's not impossible btw )

Don't know how it works mate but if you can prove you have the means to pay or have a pot where the money comes from assuming you've got to have a few million in that pot then you don't need to have motor insurance.

Like I mentioned in my post my landlord is a Police officer with Nottinghamshire Police and he's on the traffic side of the force.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Re getting away with it - the system isn't foolproof -surely if someones using cloned plates for example the ANPR system won't register a lack of insurance unless the 'donor' vehicle isn't isnured either.

As for cloned plates mate I've not got a clue how it works.