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Old 22-01-2008, 06:10   #511
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Just read the whole thread, so a few more points/posts to respond to.

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I've just heard about a new Sci Fi series, which should show in 2005, called Starhyke.

A bit more info at

http://www.starhyke.com/
The site still says it's supposed to be showing in 2007. I'm not sure what to think of it. The only thing that would get me to give it a chance is that it has Claudia Christian in it.

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I also remember Earth: Final Conflict. Lasted more than one season, but still got killed prematurely in the end.
5 seasons is still better than a lot of shows manage these days. I've got season 1 on DVD, I'm hoping they'll bring out the rest.

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Anyone have a favourite theme tune or music from their sci-fi shows they love to hear?
Not sure if I have just 1 favourite. Earth: Final Conflict would be on the list, as would Voyager.

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I'm annoyed that The Dresden Files was cancelled though. I thought the 1st season showed a lot of potential.
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The books are soooo much better...
Absolutely! If they'd made the series more like the books it might have lasted longer. Can't wait for the next 1, due out in April, IIRC.

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Trailer for Pixar's Wall-E
Stupid websites removing videos! Grrr! :mad Fortunately, I found it on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UblUO0LjPUg
Not sure if that's the same version as was previously linked to, but I thought I'd post a link in case anyone hasn't seen it. It looks good.

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Don't you remember them spinning in ToS?
I remember something spinning in ToS, but thought that was just cheesey bad effects or something.

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I could be geeky and point out that they are part of the magnetic field system that works the ships Bussard ram scoop system, which us used to gather fuel in an emergency. But I don't think I will.

You can also see the scoops bring used in next gen and on the 1701e to blow up a sonar ship, I do believe that the front of the nacelles on the e also wobble due to the presence of the "turbine blades"
I recall the Bussard collectors, it's just the whole concept of moving parts in a Starfleet starship engine... it just seems so... primitive.
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Old 22-01-2008, 09:18   #512
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The Bussard ramscoop collectors are used to gather hydrogen to replenish the fuel systems. They are not only used in emergencies.

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the main function a Starfleet Bussard collector is to collect interstellar hydrogen atoms for fuel replenishment. The device consists of a set of coils which generate a magnetic field. Collected gases are compressed and stored into holding tanks.
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Old 22-01-2008, 17:47   #513
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The Bussard ramscoop collectors are used to gather hydrogen to replenish the fuel systems. They are not only used in emergencies.

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None of which would explain the use of moving parts in the form of what looks like turbine blades in the trailer.
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Old 22-01-2008, 17:53   #514
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Sure it would. If it's supposedly sucking stuff in from space......
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Sure it would. If it's supposedly sucking stuff in from space......
Sucking with magnetic fields, not a turbine.
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You DO know it's make belive right?
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You DO know it's make belive right?
Ye cannae change the laws of physics.
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...unless it's star trek.
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...unless it's star trek.
Yeah, but even in Star Trek the idea of using a turbine in a vacuum is just... silly.
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I get the feeling I'm going to he thinking that about a lot of things with new new film.

But its life the universal translator making everybody speak English even down to their lips synching on a video in English too, you just give it a nod and a wink.
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I get the feeling I'm going to he thinking that about a lot of things with new new film.

But its life the universal translator making everybody speak English even down to their lips synching on a video in English too, you just give it a nod and a wink.
Some things, maybe. The universal translator issue is probably similar to why they didn't bother inventing a new language for every alien species in Stargate: it would be too much hassle/effort. But when it comes to physically representing something that even someone with a basic knowledge of physics knows is silly, when it would be simpler & less effort to represent something more feasible [e.g. field coils], it just makes no sense.
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It's the laws of physics, pass a current through a magnetic field and you get motion, it's how motors work.
Obviously as the hydrogen atoms get pulled in, the magnetic field strips them of their electrons making them ions, which carry a charge.
Simple really.
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It's the laws of physics, pass a current through a magnetic field and you get motion, it's how motors work.
Obviously as the hydrogen atoms get pulled in, the magnetic field strips them of their electrons making them ions, which carry a charge.
Simple really.
I know that's how motors work, but what I'm saying is that the whole concept of turbine blades in a vacuum is silly. You could draw the hydrogen atoms in without any moving parts, using energy to rotate the turbine blades would be pointless. Sure, they might hit & deflect the trajectory of the occasional atom, but otherwise they'll be just a waste of space, materials, & energy.

Think of it like this: aircraft that use propellers can only work up to a certain altitude [I don't happen to know what it is off the top of my head], because the air is just too thin. Yet even at those high altitudes the air is orders of magnitude more dense than the distribution of hydrogen atoms in space.
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But having the moving parts create the magnetic field would probably be correct. Also the moving parts look more cool than no moving parts.
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I know that's how motors work, but what I'm saying is that the whole concept of turbine blades in a vacuum is silly. You could draw the hydrogen atoms in without any moving parts, using energy to rotate the turbine blades would be pointless. Sure, they might hit & deflect the trajectory of the occasional atom, but otherwise they'll be just a waste of space, materials, & energy.

Think of it like this: aircraft that use propellers can only work up to a certain altitude [I don't happen to know what it is off the top of my head], because the air is just too thin. Yet even at those high altitudes the air is orders of magnitude more dense than the distribution of hydrogen atoms in space.
You're thinking about it the wrong way round.
The turbines (which they aren't, and in the picture they don't even look like they move, but I'll humour you ) don't spin and suck in hydrogen, they are spun by the protons (hydrogen ions) being drawn in through the magnetic field, just as a motor spins when electrons are passed through a magnetic field.

Think of an electrical circuit with a lightbulb and a motor in series.
In order for the lightbulb to turn on, current must first pass through the motor, which causes it to spin.
The motor spinning doesn't cause the light bulb to light up, it's a byproduct of the current moving through a magnetic field on the way to power the bulb.
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