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Old 19-01-2008, 18:29   #1
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sick Boy to be deported

Boy with sickle cell anaemia to be deported, 14 years old!

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Emmanuel – who does not want his surname to be published – has lived in Britain with his family for more than four years, but is due to be removed to Nigeria at lunchtime today.


http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/thi...cle3350918.ece
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Re: sick Boy to be deported

And?

Sorry to seem remarkably harsh (I've not had a good day) but I'm pretty sure there are thousands of 14 year olds and younger who have this disease. Should they all be flown to the UK in order to have treatment?

Just because he has managed to stay here when he isn't entitled to doesn't automatically make him a special case.
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Re: sick Boy to be deported

The father has abandoned them, and the mother is a qualified physiotherapist. Surely there is room in Britain for them?
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Re: sick Boy to be deported

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Helen is a qualified physiotherapist, but was unable to work while their asylum case was pending, so she spent her time volunteering for refugee agencies and working as a governor at her children's school, where they were excelling academically.
Sounds like the kind of immigrants this country could use.....
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Re: sick Boy to be deported

Exactly.
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Old 19-01-2008, 19:13   #6
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Re: sick Boy to be deported

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And?

Sorry to seem remarkably harsh (I've not had a good day) but I'm pretty sure there are thousands of 14 year olds and younger who have this disease. Should they all be flown to the UK in order to have treatment?

Just because he has managed to stay here when he isn't entitled to doesn't automatically make him a special case.
yes sorry i think your harsh derek, if u fell ill abroad would u expect to be booted out without treatment hypothetically receiving no treatment at home? without doubt this is just disgusting! has nothing to do with do gooders or whatever just human respect!
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Sounds like the kind of immigrants this country could use.....
We had a family from Pakistan living here who were seeking asylum. Their father was a human rights lawyer & had allegedly received death threats. Their children had become fully integrated in the local school & were doing well, fully supported by their parents who were on the board of governors. They had also built links with the local church.

The children had been here long enough that they no longer spoke their native language, but that didn't stop the immigration service doing a dawn raid on their home & deporting them, despite pleas that they would be in danger & lobbying by the local MP.

His letter in the Independent

http://www.asylumstories.co.uk/category/grimsby/

I know we can't just open the floodgates, but it does seem that whether people can make a contribution to our society isn't taken into account when deciding who to deport??

Last I heard the father was in hiding & suffering from diabetes, while the rest of the family were having a really hard time, especially the kids because of their initial inability to speak the language or know the culture.
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... has nothing to do with do gooders or whatever ...
It probably has a lot to do with "easy targets" - far simpler to identify and deport this family than go out and find the real baddies.
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Re: sick Boy to be deported

Correct me if im worng but its incurable isnt it? The symptoms can be treated to a degree but it will never go away.

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if u fell ill abroad would u expect to be booted out without treatment hypothetically receiving no treatment at home?
Like it or not, I would expect exactly that, thats what would happen. I would im sure be treated until fit to travel as im sure this child has been and then come back home regardless of what treatment is available here.

I dont pay my tax and NI to provide life long medical care for foreign nationals.

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The children had been here long enough that they no longer spoke their native language
I dont believe that for a second. You genuinely believe that the parents didnt speak their language at home?

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I know we can't just open the floodgates, but it does seem that whether people can make a contribution
What contribution? As a lawyer you mean? A lawyer from Pakistan cannot practice law here
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yes sorry i think your harsh derek, if u fell ill abroad would u expect to be booted out without treatment hypothetically receiving no treatment at home?

Yes, I would.
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It probably has a lot to do with "easy targets" - far simpler to identify and deport this family than go out and find the real baddies.
Thats probably it....this country all over.
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Old 19-01-2008, 20:07   #12
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I dont believe that for a second. You genuinely believe that the parents didnt speak their language at home?

What contribution? As a lawyer you mean? A lawyer from Pakistan cannot practice law here
You are, of course, entitled to believe what you like.

No, but as an educated man he would still be able to make some contribution, and in fact had already done so as a school governor. This is a matter of attitude, more than qualification, in my opinion.
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Sounds like the kind of immigrants this country could use.....
precisely !!
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So his mum's a physiotherapist .... would it be ok to deport the boy if his parents were useless then?
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Would it be ok to deport the boy if his parents were useless then?
Good question.

In my opinion we need to 'draw the line' somewhere & assessing the overall cost/benefit ratio of the situation should include a number of factors, of which I'd assume the potential for making a meaningful contribution to the community would be one?

It does seem to me, however, that meeting targets is the only aspect considered?
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