Muslim Refuses To Sell Bible Story Book At M&S

[dilli-theclaw]

Considering the amount of abuse she'd get from the intellectually challenged members of our society I'm not at all surprised

[Arthurgray50@blu]

When l started this thread, l did not think that for one moment, we would be slagging each off, like everyone is, in the tones of the comments, we are in general discussion, discussing a matter, that probabely does go on everyday of the week, it is just that this is a hot, subject at the moment, and got into the papers, irrespective of the religion, don't have a row with each other, and when l state 'racist' l just want to clarify that the comment is being made in a non- racist manner. l do like to start good threads, but don't want forum members to get heated over them.

[dcclanuk]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

So it's ok for her to refuse to sell the item due to her religious beliefs, but if the refusal was due to her religious beliefs she should be sacked?
Makes perfect sense

My point (if what I quoted is true), the BIBLE was not seen as un-clean.. she thought she HERSELF was unclean. If that is the case, then I guess U can sometimes never please people.

edit: if she refused to touch the bible coz she is a muslim, then she is ABSOLUTELY WRONG! I AGREE!

This is just another case where someone from a minority group refuses to integrate properly into the country they either chose to live in or was born in (as its not race it could be either) it makes me sick. Im expected to tolerate minority groups I at least expect the same in return but fat chance eh

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

This is just another case where someone from a minority group refuses to integrate properly into the country they either chose to live in or was born in (as its not race it could be either) it makes me sick. Im expected to tolerate minority groups I at least expect the same in return but fat chance eh

its just the same as a catholic working in a pharmacy refusing to sell condoms or the morning after pill. i you also sick of majority groups that have integrated into society then?

I'm rather sick and tired of people , individuals, organisations and newspapers, who make a mountain out of a mole hill.

do catholics do that often then? if they do then id object to them working there yes. This thing is happening all the time and a lot of the time the complaints/probelms are to do with islam/muslim. I think this country has gone down hill since the PC brigade got its own way and made people like me white british feel second rate with less rights than those in minority. In fact this country has got worse and worse full stop since we all have to pander to the minority. I have no problem with them if they didnt have a problem with this countrys rules/customs etc instead of trying to change them. Do you think a group of white christians living in Saudi would be able to pull any strings because of race / religion ,of course not but here in this country its totally different. I have lost freedom of expression and thats not all the standard British white man has lost

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

do catholics do that often then? if they do then id object to them working there yes. This thing is happening all the time and a lot of the time the complaints/probelms are to do with islam/muslim. I think this country has gone down hill since the PC brigade got its own way and made people like me white british feel second rate with less rights than those in minority. In fact this country has got worse and worse full stop since we all have to pander to the minority. I have no problem with them if they didnt have a problem with this countrys rules/customs etc instead of trying to change them. Do you think a group of white christians living in Saudi would be able to pull any strings because of race / religion ,of course not but here in this country its totally different. I have lost freedom of expression and thats not all the standard British white man has lost

If we look at this case in particular no one is pandering to a minority, and its not like the rights of the customer were over looked. after all someone else could have served her. The law of contract - offer and acceptance, in this country gives the onus to the seller if he or she wants to sell a product to a customer, so we could even say that this country's laws, as you like to put it, were covering her actions anyway.

Who is making the biggest deal over the this? the press reporting on it happening or the person who should have just sold the book. We have to accept them their customs and beliefs it would only show respect if they accepted ours. But they do not accept ours this makes it plain and to me thats disrespectful.

[jkat]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

and thats not all the standard British white man has lost

standard??? british??? white??? lol

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

I think in this case its definately (some of) the press that is making the bigger deal. The sales assistant told the customer that someone else would serve her. that could have been end of story. As to what was said by the sales assistant, that is a bit heresay at the moment. all we know for certain is that she, due to her religious beliefs, asked someone else to serve the customer. wheres the big deal there? does it warrant press attention?

[Russ]

I wonder what would have happened had there not been 'someone else' available?

[budwieser]

How about some respect from outsiders for our traditions and religious beliefs?
So many people come into this country and try to impose their religious beliefs onto us, Its our country but no-one can seem to see that.! We`re getting worn down by all the immigrants who protest that they can`t practise their beliefs. What about some respect for ours, Eh? Nobody gives a **** about the normal, white, hard working family man any more. Paying his taxes on time through PAYE .
All the time the muslims are allowed to demonstrate and have rallies, If we put up a flag of St George, we`re told to take it down............ What the **** is that all about? It`s our country. Lets never forget it.
When will the government start standing up for us?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

The law of contract - offer and acceptance, in this country gives the onus to the seller if he or she wants to sell a product to a customer, so we could even say that this country's laws, as you like to put it, were covering her actions anyway.

Is that relevant, she isn't the seller, she is an employee.

[grabbi]

This country is a Christian Country, and if they arent willing to sell the Bible because its "unclean" then that tells me that they are disrespectful of the beliefs of this country, and also the company, whose employees should be addressed on these issues.

Sooner or later, they are going to have to sell something like that, and if they are unwilling, then they shouldnt get the job.

I suppose when in MandS, she doesnt serve customers with Pork or anything... again, something MandS sell, and if they want to work for that company, they should.

She should be fired.

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ean-Bible-book

Theres the full story.

Fact is, what is said in there is correct.

If it was a Christian refusing to sell a Kouran, there would be hell to pay. In fact, that person would have lost their job.

Why should anyone else be any different?

This is England. EVERYONE abides by the same laws and regulations, policies and respects other peoples beliefs.

Why Apply for a job which entails serving Bibles and "unclean" meat? AND THEN the assistant offended her by saying the Bible is Unclean!!!! Thats offensive to our religions, and for that alone, she should be fired on discrimination of the customer.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by grabbi

This country is a Christian Country, and if they arent willing to sell the Bible because its "unclean" then that tells me that they are disrespectful of the beliefs of this country, and also the company, whose employees should be addressed on these issues.

It always amuses me the number of people the use the 'this is a Christian country' line when a Muslim does/says something, yet have no spirituality in their lives otherwise.

Originally Posted by grabbi

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ean-Bible-book

Theres the full story.

Fact is, what is said in there is correct.

That's if you believe the Express.

Originally Posted by grabbi

This is England. EVERYONE abides by the same laws and regulations, policies and respects other peoples beliefs

No, this is Great Britain. Agreed about the laws though.

Originally Posted by grabbi

Why Apply for a job which entails serving Bibles and "unclean" meat? AND THEN the assistant offended her by saying the Bible is Unclean!!!! Thats offensive to our religions, and for that alone, she should be fired on discrimination of the customer.

No-one has said the Bible is unclean.