26-11-2007, 20:53
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Just had a chance to watch Panorama again. The programme seemed to raise more questions than it answered.
One of the things that Gerry McCann said in one of the earlier interviews, was that the parents took it in turns to check up on eachother's children. This wasn't strictly true, as the programme showed, Gerry McCann only checked on his own children at "just after" 9pm, Jane Tanner checked on her own children at 9.15pm, but Matthew Oldfield claimed that he checked on the McCann children at 9.30, but strangely only saw the twins and not Madeleine through the open bedroom door (even though Madeleine was in between the twins?). It does make me wonder if Mr Oldfield checked on them at all. I wonder if the others kept their doors locked & the McCanns didn't?
Jane Tanner's claim that she was back in her apartment by 10pm is a bit odd. She said she checked on her children at 9.15, before the starter was served at the tapas bar. Assuming she was gone for just 10 minutes, that means she had the starter, main course & possibly a dessert, and got back to her apartment in the space of 35 minutes. I wonder why she left the tapas bar earlier than any of the others?
Another fact that emerged, was that Gerry McCann also said "They have taken her" when he phoned his sister. He used the same strange words as Kate did, when she returned to the tapas bar!
The most interesting part of the programme was when they interviewed Kate McCann's Mother, Susan Healey. She said "Well I have to say that I'm suprised that Kate & Gerry left their children at all, and I thought about it a lot because they are such caring parents, and I think, why?" If she can say that in public, it makes you think what she has said in private!
Also, I wonder why Kate was so desperate to talk to her priest that night. When she phoned her Mother, she asked her for the phone number of Father Paul Seddon, the priest who married the McCanns & baptised Madeleine. Even her Mother seemed suprised by this. I wonder if either of them has ever been asked what they talked about?
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26-11-2007, 21:00
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
You are Robert Murat.
I hereby claim my £5.00
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26-11-2007, 22:42
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
it is all so strange isn't it. I feel guilty for reading it daily ! but it kind of gets you fascinated by the whole tradgic case..
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26-11-2007, 23:32
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Reading it daily? You must be an Express reader
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26-11-2007, 23:47
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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Also, I wonder why Kate was so desperate to talk to her priest that night. When she phoned her Mother, she asked her for the phone number of Father Paul Seddon, the priest who married the McCanns & baptided Madeleine. Even her Mother seemed surprised by this. I wonder if either of them has ever been asked what they talked about?
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She religious and needed support? Also, I am guessing, if true, he was asked and it turned out to be innocent. Priests are not allowed to keep details of a serious crime hidden (i think) and also tend to be quite decent people who would regard killing your child as a crime to report.
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27-11-2007, 01:18
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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She religious and needed support? Also, I am guessing, if true, he was asked and it turned out to be innocent. Priests are not allowed to keep details of a serious crime hidden (i think) and also tend to be quite decent people who would regard killing your child as a crime to report.
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I suppose so. But it still seems a bit odd wanting to talk to a priest on the phone. I would imagine it must be quite hard to give someone comfort who is hundreds of miles away, rather than face to face.
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27-11-2007, 01:46
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
There is a lot more to this case than is being told in the official media particularly about the McCann's lifestyle.
We can only hope the full truth comes out one day.
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27-11-2007, 09:30
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
That's what always bothered me about this everyone's initial reaction seems to have been "she's been abducted". If i left a four year old sleeping in an apartment and went back at some point and she wasn't there first thing that would come to me was that she had woken up and gone looking for me. Not so the mc'canns who right from the getgo knew she had been abducted. The fact that all these friends that were there can't seem to get thier stories straight also puzzles me. I think there is a hell of a lot we don't know about this and for that reason we shouldn't say oneway or the other who or what happened to the little girl.
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27-11-2007, 11:07
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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That's what always bothered me about this everyone's initial reaction seems to have been "she's been abducted". If i left a four year old sleeping in an apartment and went back at some point and she wasn't there first thing that would come to me was that she had woken up and gone looking for me. Not so the mc'canns who right from the getgo knew she had been abducted. The fact that all these friends that were there can't seem to get thier stories straight also puzzles me. I think there is a hell of a lot we don't know about this and for that reason we shouldn't say oneway or the other who or what happened to the little girl.
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They claim that they know that she'd been abducted because the 'cuddle cat' that she was sleeping with had been put on a shelf or something high up out of Madeline's reach. Pretty weird thing to do if true, but the whole thing is pretty strange.
I found it very unsettling when Gerry McCann tried to suggest that the abductor may have drugged the children in the Panorama documentary. That seems so ridiculous (presumably the abductor would have done it to prevent the children making any noise, but if he could get access to drug them quietly then why niot take them at the same time?) that it really felt like he was trying to cover himself in case any evidence of sedatives is ever found.
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27-11-2007, 11:23
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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They claim that they know that she'd been abducted because the 'cuddle cat' that she was sleeping with had been put on a shelf or something high up out of Madeline's reach. Pretty weird thing to do if true, but the whole thing is pretty strange.
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I which case as educated rational people they should have known that the best chance of dna from the abductor would be on the object they knew the abductor had touched.
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27-11-2007, 14:29
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
If we accept the version of events that team mc'cann offer up we have an abductor that only had a few minutes to abduct maddie (due to all the friends and the mc'canns coming and going) but in that time maddie was drugged and cuddle cat was placed on high. Yeah like i fully believe that i still don't think they killed maddie but i do believe they have done something in relation to the kids that they are very worried about it becoming public. Maybe they were sedating their kids as i am not a doctor i don't know if that would be big trouble for them but personally i think it would. I just think back to all the parents of previous abdutee's non of them needed a personal PR person and i as i think many will agree never see the good in anything PR is involved in.
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27-11-2007, 14:47
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Are you guys STILL going on about this? geez....let it rest already.
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27-11-2007, 14:48
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
If we accept the version of events that team mc'cann offer up we have an abductor that only had a few minutes to abduct maddie (due to all the friends and the mc'canns coming and going) but in that time maddie was drugged and cuddle cat was placed on high. Yeah like i fully believe that i still don't think they killed maddie but i do believe they have done something in relation to the kids that they are very worried about it becoming public. Maybe they were sedating their kids as i am not a doctor i don't know if that would be big trouble for them but personally i think it would. I just think back to all the parents of previous abdutee's non of them needed a personal PR person and i as i think many will agree never see the good in anything PR is involved in.
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IMO I don't think that all the others, had as much 'backup' money as the Mc'cann's to raise the profile of the case so much.
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27-11-2007, 17:47
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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Are you guys STILL going on about this? geez....let it rest already.
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No one is forcing you to read this thread.
If your not interested, don't read it.
Quite simple really.
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27-11-2007, 22:23
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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No one is forcing you to read this thread.
If your not interested, don't read it.
Quite simple really. 
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And if your stupid enough to carry on talking about this, then feel free to do so and ignore whatever i post.
Quite simple really.
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