Madeleine McCann

[slug]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The secrecy laws mean nothing when they are constantly drip feeding the Portuguese press information, who of course are then free to publish with any slant or angle they want

They are not allowed to publish with any slant or angle they want because they can be sued. As I believe the McCanns are doing against Tal & Qual.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by peanutkp

It means even though they could be found innocent, they will still be guilty by a good number of people. Just because a court might not be able to prove they were guilty, doesn't always mean that they are innocent. (Not saying the Mccanns are or aren't - just yet).

Hence the reason I added that the only way out for them, is that maddie is found alive.

And trying to prove guilt without a body will be difficult especially due to the poor chain of custody on the evidence in this case - they are still driving this car - No?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by slug

They are not allowed to publish with any slant or angle they want because they can be sued. As I believe the McCanns are doing against Tal & Qual.

Can't they? The press out there has gone to town for a couple of months on this and they have to face one court case! That's not bad odds under any circumstances and seeing as events have taken a turn, whose to say they'll even have to justify their reporting in court

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

And trying to prove guilt without a body will be difficult especially due to the poor chain of custody on the evidence in this case - they are still driving this car - No?

Oh yes the car, another example of their fine police work

I think its stupid to attack people for claiming the McCanns are guilty before a proper trail but then to turn around and attack the police for at best being lazy and unprofessional and at worst for setting up the McCanns. It's the same process of deciding something before the facts are known.

We don't know if they are gulity or not or how professional the case against them is. IMO, They certainly seem quite odd but the police also seem to remarkibly professional. But we're not sure until the case is done...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think its stupid to attack people for claiming the McCanns are guilty before a proper trail but then to turn around and attack the police for at best being lazy and unprofessional and at worst for setting up the McCanns.

So it's professional to leak information to the media and of course they didn't look out of their depth relying on British forensic teams to gather evidence? For the record I never called them lazy or corrupt

We don't know if they are gulity or not or how professional the case against them is. IMO, They certainly seem quite odd but the police also seem to remarkibly professional. But we're not sure until the case is done

Oh yes they have been remarkably professional in this case involving a missing girl as well. Good job they were taken of this case before the interviews started imo

Portugal’s Ministerio Publico, the district attorney, confirmed last night that it had charged three police officers with torture, a fourth with omission of evidence and a fifth with falsification of documents.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1913175.ece

[slug]

Kate McCann's Diary 'Is Leaked'
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...0,00.html?f=vg

Originally Posted by slug

Kate McCann's Diary 'Is Leaked'
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...0,00.html?f=vg

If the contents of Kate McCann's diary have been leaked to the press by the police, then I think that is an absolute disgrace.

While I am no fan of the McCanns, leaking the contents of something as personal as a diary, is definately not on.

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Originally Posted by slug

Kate McCann's Diary 'Is Leaked'
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...0,00.html?f=vg

Must be a strong case if they have to leak info , especially "hard evidence" like - "The papers claim police saw the diary lying open in the villa the McCanns rented after Madeleine went missing. They say there was no diary entry on May 3 when the four-year-old disappeared."

Perhaps she didn't fill in the diary because she was running about like a headless chicken trying to find her missing child - most people who I know that keep diaries fill them in last thing at night, and she was perhaps a little busy then.

Wouldn't it have been even more suspicious if she had filled the diary in?

Originally Posted by foreverwar

and she was perhaps a little busy then.

Wining and dining...

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Wining and dining...

Screaming and wailing.

Leaks to the press happen her as much as anywhere else and hardly constitute a reliable way to judge competence or professionalism. Being perfectly honest if i were a member of the portugese police i think by now i would be leaking information as well. Just because some feel they are not upto the standard of the british police that seems to mean to some they can throw accusattions of "frame up's" and "unprofessional conduct". If and when the case is made publically against the mc'canns i am sure the methodology that they have used will be made clear and MAYBE when it is seen in context it might even have been the right way to do it.

Also same people that slate the portugese for leaking seem by and large to have no problem with the mc'canns spilling their guts through family and friends. This whole situation has become a mess but it is not all down to one party or the other, parties on all sides have turned this into what looks like a public farce. I am constantly amazed at how we brits love to go to other people's country's and then when it suits us accuse them of anything we like. Arrogance is not even a start for the attitude some have.

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No they were wining and dining with friends which is why this happened in the first place.

[SMHarman]

Couple of BBC links from today
Diary - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6993407.stm
DNA Guru - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6992372.stm

Originally Posted by Sir Alec Jeffreys

DNA doesn't have the words innocence or guilt in it

With the fund now having the amount of money it does what detective agency's have been contacted to help locate maddie.

[slug]

McCanns Quizzed By Social Services
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...,00.html?f=dta

I have no wish to start the whole debate again but this bit made me spit out my coffee

A spokeswoman for the family said: "As responsible parents concerned for the welfare of their twins, on return from Portugal, Gerry and Kate contacted social services to arrange a meeting to discuss their wellbeing."

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

With the fund now having the amount of money it does what detective agency's have been contacted to help locate maddie.

It would seem if I read this report correctly that Private Eyes are illegal in Portugal.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2324229.ece

I am getting sick of the neverending line of family members releasing statements to the press, they are helping to fuel the flames. The McCanns and the Police are fighting a proxy war of words though the papers!