Madeleine McCann

[smicer07]

"Bodily fluids" matching Maddie's DNA found in the boot of the hire car..


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283521,00.html

There may be trouble aheeeeead....

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Just imagine the state a body would be in after 25 days.
The smell, the decay, the greasy smears left around.

and then add the ability for either of them to get around Portugal unnoticed by the police or press 25 days and all the publicity later.

Couple of other thoughts reading the links posted...

Per the BBC link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6988485.stm

Last week, according to her family, detectives put to Mrs McCann the suggestion that her daughter's blood had been found inside the car.

Forensic investigator Professor David Barclay, who specialises in cold cases, said if blood had been found in the couple's hire car it could conceivably have been from their twins.

He told BBC East Midlands Today that siblings can share as many as 15 out of 20 DNA indicators.

Per the Sky Link...
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283521,00.html

Bodily fluids - not blood - matching Madeleine McCann's DNA have been found in the car hired by her parents, according to sources.

It had an 88% match with the missing four-year-old's DNA, sources said.

88%, so not 100% = 17/20 vs the 15/20 DNA indicators in the BBC link. Could this be sibling DNA from puke, poop or something else?

Just thought but at the stage where that car could have been used the focus was clearly on Kate and Gerry mc'cann so if maddie was in that car would a friend or family member have done it while the spotlight was firmly elsewhere. Yet more speculation but then thats all this affair is mainly and not a lot of facts by virtue that the portugese police are not in accordance with their laws releasing much information.

This is starting to look very bad but the worst thing about recent events is that a 4 year old has lost her life and will not have the life she should have done however that life was ended or by whom.

[mrmistoffelees]

there is also this quote to contend

'Police searching the car also found so much of Madeleine's hair that it could not have been transferred from a blanket or clothes.

It must have come directly from her body,'



The information came from senior sources in the investigation who briefed Portuguese journalists

[Xaccers]

So, decomposing, her body was placed in the boot of the car where the spare wheel is kept, hair fell off in a clump as would happen with decomposing flesh, maybe snagged on something as she was taken out or put in.
Is that what people are thinking?

Thing is, with the amount of media around, how?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

So, decomposing, her body was placed in the boot of the car where the spare wheel is kept, hair fell off in a clump as would happen with decomposing flesh, maybe snagged on something as she was taken out or put in.
Is that what people are thinking?

Which then begs another question, if the dog that was brought in to sniff for corpses, and got a result in the apartment.

Why, did it not get a result in the hire car ??

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Which then begs another question, if the dog that was brought in to sniff for corpses, and got a result in the apartment.

Why, did it not get a result in the hire car ??

Exactly, a "fresh" body is more likely to smell of a live person than a 25 day old body would.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

The 'real' abducter could have broken into the hire car and planted the 'evidence' at some point to cover his or her tracks.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Exactly, a "fresh" body is more likely to smell of a live person than a 25 day old body would.

There is of course the option that the dog did not search the hire car. (for whatever reason)

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Which then begs another question, if the dog that was brought in to sniff for corpses, and got a result in the apartment.

Why, did it not get a result in the hire car ??

I heard it costs £5000 per day to hire those dogs, for that money, they dont make mistakes

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

The 'real' abductee could have broken into the hire car and planted the 'evidence' at some point to cover his or her tracks.

Erm, in a nutshell not likely to happen as

a) you would have further DNA from an unknown person in the vehicle (So far as I know the authorities have not said that this has happened)

Whilst looking at some bits and pieces this morning, it would appear that no one had hired the car that the McCanns were using up to eight weeks before they hired it.

b) There would be some sign of forced entry to the car, or the alarm would have gone off

c) The likelyhood of a suspect returning to a scene is very very unlikely

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I heard it costs £5000 per day to hire those dogs, for that money, they dont make mistakes

Does not answer the question though

The dog either was not given the oppurtunity to 'smell' the car. Or, it did and it had a missmelling (sorry, could not think of a better word)

Or is your point one of that it must not have had the chance ?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Does not answer the question though

The dog either was not given the oppurtunity to 'smell' the car. Or, it did and it had a missmelling (sorry, could not think of a better word)

Or is your point one of that it must not have had the chance ?

Yes because at 5 grand a day you don't get miss smellings, mistakes, weeing on the carpet or humping peoples legs, sure it's all in the hire bumf

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yes because at 5 grand a day you don't get miss smellings, mistakes, weeing on the carpet or humping peoples legs, it's all in the hire bumf

So, surely the dog should be allowed to now investigate the car ? and the fact that it has not already is surely worrying ?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

So, surely the dog should be allowed to now investigate the car ? and the fact that it has not already is surely worrying ?

Do we know for certain it didn't check the car, couldn't it have simply found no traces of a corpse, don't know what that makes of the hair sample though, evidence wise

[etccarmageddon]

the latest on sky news on line says there was so much hair in the boot it could have only come from her body and also it's not blood they found in the boot - it's bodily fluid.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283521,00.html