10-09-2007, 18:53
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Second paragraph wasn't aimed at you freezin sorry should have made that clearer. It was aimed at the whole "poor mc'canns under the nasty media spotlight" brigade that thought it was good to get the media involved in the beginning but now seem shocked the media are turning.
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10-09-2007, 19:44
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Sky now claiming that a FULL DNA match for Madeleine has been found in the hire car
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10-09-2007, 19:47
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
I read an interesting article in one of tonights free London papers saying how the UK team that have provided the forensics test results to the portuguese team are 100% confident of their findings.
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10-09-2007, 19:50
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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I read an interesting article in one of tonights free London papers saying how the UK team that have provided the forensics test results to the portuguese team are 100% confident of their findings.
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That would be the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham if I remember rightly
Dont suppose there is an online link to this article ?
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10-09-2007, 19:51
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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Sky now claiming that a FULL DNA match for Madeleine has been found in the hire car
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Sky source says a full match, which seems to contradict the source in yesterday's Observer - link
"Revealing the details behind the decision to shift the focus of the investigation onto the McCanns, the source said that in addition to the blood at the holiday flat, DNA evidence had been found in a car rented by the McCanns more than two weeks after Madeleine went missing.
He said that while both samples had matched Madeleine's DNA, since they had degraded over time, this was based on an incomplete picture - only 15 of the available 20 genetic markers usually used for such analysis were found: 'Nineteen out of 20 is what we consider conclusive. In this case, they could extract only 15 - but all of the 15 exactly matched Madeleine's DNA.' "
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10-09-2007, 19:57
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Sky source now says a second full match has been found.
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"In the hire car, five weeks after Madeleine's disappearance, police found a partial match.
"That might be explained by transfer onto clothes.
"But the crucial thing is that police have also found a second full match.
"Police say that is the most damning evidence that has been returned by the tests.
"It shows, as far as they are concerned, the presence of Madeleine's body in the car five weeks after she disappeared."
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10-09-2007, 20:04
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
So from this therefore it would appear that the parent's explanation for the partial match (transferred) would appear to be untrue.
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10-09-2007, 20:07
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
If people read into stupid articles that have been printed by silly papers, that are only out there to cause problems, then let me say this, the donations that have been sent, is for financial support, so technically they can use it for legal matters, but as far as l am aware, they have not touch it for that matter, and in regards to what will happen, if she is found dead or alive, then the money will be donated to form an organisation to look for lost children, and l can honestly say, about time too, there are to many children and homeless people going missing each day.
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10-09-2007, 20:18
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
More and more evidence seems to be pointing to their involvement..
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10-09-2007, 20:30
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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...in regards to what will happen, if she is found dead or alive, then the money will be donated to form an organisation to look for lost children, and l can honestly say, about time too, there are to many children and homeless people going missing each day. 
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That's not what it says on their website.
The fund was set up not only to help find Madeleine, but to help bring the abductor/s to court, and to provide support (including financial assistance) to Madeleines family.
Any 'surplus' may be used to set up a charity to help families in similar circumstances.
So there are 3 objectives. Finding Madeleine is only one of those.
It would be ironic if the McCanns were charged. They would use half the fund for a prosecution lawyer, and half the fund for a defence lawyer!
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10-09-2007, 20:38
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
Am I the only person who thinks that whilst the McCanns are under suspicion (rightly or wrongly) that any further donations should be returned and all access to the fund for whatever reasons frozen ?
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10-09-2007, 20:39
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
btw...does anyone know what they are comparing the DNA results with?
Where did they get a sample of Madeleine's DNA for comparison?
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10-09-2007, 20:46
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
I would have thought they got the sample the usual way hairbrush, toothbrush that sort of thing. Purely speculation but as they are doctors would they have known that after that amount of time the DNA would have degraded beyond the point of being conclusive???.
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10-09-2007, 21:01
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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I would have thought they got the sample the usual way hairbrush, toothbrush that sort of thing. Purely speculation but as they are doctors would they have known that after that amount of time the DNA would have degraded beyond the point of being conclusive???.
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Irrelevant really as the full match that has been recovered is from blood.
They could of course be innocent and at this moment in time they are but the evidence is starting to look more damning. They are going to need one hell of an explanation.
The press part of this is very very disturbing it's almost a socio-class type thing.
The McCanns are an afluent family or appear to be, both hold respected jobs. Upper middle class etc.
Now, who thinks the presses response would have been the same if it had been a single mother from a inner city run down council estate that this had happened to ?
Because I don't
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10-09-2007, 21:47
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
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The press part of this is very very disturbing it's almost a socio-class type thing.
The McCanns are an afluent family or appear to be, both hold respected jobs. Upper middle class etc.
Now, who thinks the presses response would have been the same if it had been a single mother from a inner city run down council estate that this had happened to ?
Because I don't
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...or a 'celebrity'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/6986155.stm
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