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Old 07-09-2007, 12:57   #871
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Presumably though they have eveidence rather than gut feelings, tabloid title tattle and gossip though
It seems to be linked to the fact that blood was found in the McCanns hire car.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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It seems to be linked to the fact that blood was found in the hire car.
Did I read it right, cause it seems that they hired this car 25 days after madeline dissapeared. (Or was the blood found 28 days after she went missing....?)

If its the former, this would imply that she was moved in a car that her parents had hired 25 days after she was reported missing.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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What? That the parents had something to do with? The Police think so.
No, this, wot I said earlier this morning:

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Of course, the other problem is that there is a hang 'em high brigade - some of whom are members of this forum - who seem to think that the mere interest of the police equates to a conviction.
The British Press, and many people here on this forum, are continually failing to account for the differences in British and Portuguese investigative procedures.

The police do not have to think the McCanns 'had something to do with' their daughter's death in order for them to be declared official suspects. The designation in Portuguese is a legal mechanism that affords certain protections to someone when the police want to ask them certain difficult questions.

I wouldn't worry though, you are not alone in your readiness to point the finger, or to suggest the Police believe more than they actually do. Apparently Mrs McCann was jeered by some sections of the crowd when she returned to the police station this morning.
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Did I read it right, cause it seems that they hired this car 25 days after madeline dissapeared. (Or was the blood found 28 days after she went missing....?)

If its the former, this would imply that she was moved in a car that her parents had hired 25 days after she was reported missing.
Yes the car was hired 25 days after Madeleine went missing.

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Chris T, no one is saying hang 'em high?
Sky News are now saying Kate will be arrested later today.
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Chris T, no one is saying hang 'em high?
Sky News are now saying Kate will be arrested later today.
If she has done it then hanging would be too easy a way out for her.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Now Kate's Mum is a suspect too. Something isn't right.
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Now Kate's Mum is a suspect too. Something isn't right.
Have you got a source please? Linky.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Sky TV news have just reported that traces of Madeleine's blood was found on Kate's clothes. I am not sure whether this was found by the portuguese police, or whether it was part of the recent UK DNA tests.

I wonder, though, how significant these kind of things really are. I bet if you looked closely enough, you would find traces of children's blood on most parents clothes, through entirely innocent means.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Now Kate's Mum is a suspect too. Something isn't right.
Same thought here, ever since one member of the press (not Uk) posed it to them ages ago. However - Since this broke, they have been watched near enough 24/7, not by the police, but by the press - which are far worse!

Q1 - Why make a worldwide appeal for the return of your daughter, if you've done it and know that your every move will be watched?
Q2 - If she has unfortunately died (either by accident or other) there is the slight problem of - where is the body?

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Just out of interest - do the police know who hired the car previous to the McCanns????
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Sky News are now saying that Kate McCann may be charged later today with
Madeleine's accidental death.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html
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Same thought here, ever since one member of the press (not Uk) posed it to them ages ago. However - Since this broke, they have been watched near enough 24/7, not by the police, but by the press - which are far worse!

Q1 - Why make a worldwide appeal for the return of your daughter, if you've done it and know that your every move will be watched?
Q2 - If she has unfortunately died (either by accident or other) there is the slight problem of - where is the body?


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Just out of interest - do the police know who hired the car previous to the McCanns????

Q1. How odd would it look if she did not make that appeal ?
Q2. I suspect this may be where the blood in the hire car comes into play
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

even if she is charged there are two points to keep in mind a)innocent until PROVED guilty and via the proper court process and b)the police investigation has been an utter shambles - eg. the appartment/crime scene has been contaminated.
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even if she is charged there are two points to keep in mind a)innocent until PROVED guilty and via the proper court process and b)the police investigation has been an utter shambles - eg. the appartment/crime scene has been contaminated.
1) Completely agree, innocent until proven guilty

2) Sources to support crime scene contamination ?
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Woolly looking at it from a neutral point doing what they did could be looked at either way they did it because they didn't have anything to do with her disappearence or that they did it to try and throw suspicion off themselves. I have listened to this on bbc 24 most of the day and the police seem to be very specific about what they want to ask her. Being formally called a suspect does not of course mean guilt and in portugal as has been stated it opens up more legal avenues for both police and kate mccann.

The part of the hire car IF true is worrying i mean i am not a statistics person but what is the chance of hiring the car your child was abducted in five weeks later. That does seem to point a finger squarely at the parents or someone close to the parents. Reality is this case has more twists and turns then a helter skelter while i always thought it was odd they weren't suspects earlier maybe the portugese have different procedures and as already said being a suspect doesn't make them guilty of anything.

Police now seem to be convinced that maddie is dead which is sad for that alone. Why they have turned so much attention to the parents only they and the british police know and i doubt they are in a rush to release such info to the public just yet. We must as we have done from day one wait and see though it saddens me to no longer be talking about maddie being found alive.
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