another linux question

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

sorry for a hijack here . Installed ubuntu using Wubi. Now the ati driver said it was reserved or something so I ticked it to install and it did. Now I want to run the fancy gui but it says extension not available, downloaded newest ati driver but cant work out what to do with it, I typed what it asked in the instruction on site but could not open it

edit it was restricted driver

before the res would stick at 1024 with the restricted driver its 1650:1050

Have a look at this thread Zing...

[brundles]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

and that means?

although it appears you dont need to anymore according to the site

ok its installing

well its downloaded the driver and trying to install it so thats made life easier than before still dont mean the system will work after though but maybe lol

As mentioned, if you're using Ubuntu then Ctrl-Alt-F1 will do it - well, drop you to a login prompt anyway.

The reason I used it is (as you saw on the previous thread) the graphics card in my PC is old enough that Nvidia have lumped it into the "general legacy no feature support" category. Envy is supposed to work out which version of drivers is the best one for your card and install them.

Need to be careful with kernel upgrade updates though - install those and it'll freak out on the next bootup and you need to re-run Envy with it. (Actually, in my case Envy updated the kernel without being asked to but Ubuntu had to catch up later which was a bit irritating.)

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Have a look at this thread Zing...

ok It says log out and in sessions select gnome with xgl. I log out and it just puts me straight back to log in I cant see sessions

ok you had to click options first lol if I had written this id have put that lol

[brundles]

Try logging in again, then go to Settings -> Sessions and Startup Settings.

Make sure Display Chooser at Login is ticked.

Well feck me with a big stick thats done it.

I must say what a fecking ball ache . How many of you would have known how to do that without the step by step destructions? I have to say its a load of bowl hooks really but at least someone knew where to send me thanks Cobby

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Originally Posted by brundles

Try logging in again, then go to Settings -> Sessions and Startup Settings.

Make sure Display Chooser at Login is ticked.

options not settings matey

I knwo this aint my thread but I have to thank Dilli for pointing me a Wubi cuz this allows me to play properly without any hassle lol

[xpod]

Not sure where your at zing but theres the restricted drivers manager in the system>admin menu which i assume you`ve already found.

If that dont work and the howto cobbydaler has given you dont work then there are other methods out there so i would`nt be too put off if things mabey dont work one way right away.....there are always others.

EDIT...are we cooking with gas then??

[Cobbydaler]

No prob, glad you got it working...

Now if they would just port Medal of Homer to Linux we might wean you off Windows...

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

No prob, glad you got it working...

Now if they would just port Medal of Homer to Linux we might wean you off Windows...

I doubt it that was a real long way around getting something to work but at least you pointed me at destructions

[dragon]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Well feck me with a big stick thats done it.

I must say what a fecking ball ache . How many of you would have known how to do that without the step by step destructions? I have to say its a load of bowl hooks really but at least someone knew where to send me thanks Cobby

And there lies in the biggest problem with linux.

Its a rock solid Os stability wise.
It also has some very good applications and desktop managers which provide a nice gui.

But there's still a lot of stuff that is just To hard for the average joe to get their head around and that's why it remains mostly an enthusiasts OS, at least on the desktop anyway.

They just need to crack that user friendliness aspect and then perhaps it will appeal to more people, particularly as a lot of people are buying low cost computers just to browse the internet chat with friends and type a few documents, play some music.etc.

All of which Linux can do fine providing you can figure out how to set it up for your hardware.
Yes its getting a lot better but its not there quite yet.

[brundles]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

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options not settings matey

I knwo this aint my thread but I have to thank Dilli for pointing me a Wubi cuz this allows me to play properly without any hassle lol

I wondered about that one after I'd posted it - I'm running XFCE now rather than Gnome.

[xpod]

They just need to crack that user friendliness aspect and then perhaps it will appeal to more people, particularly as a lot of people are buying low cost computers just to browse the internet chat with friends and type a few documents, play some music.etc.

Perhaps if they just bought Pre-installed Ubuntu machines then those installation issues would`nt be a problem.

The later releases of Ubuntu are a lot more "user friendly" than earlier versions but if it can come as far as it has in just the year i`ve used it then i wonder what they will do in 5???

[dragon]

Originally Posted by xpod

Perhaps if they just bought Pre-installed Ubuntu machines then those installation issues would`nt be a problem.

The later releases of Ubuntu are a lot more "user friendly" than earlier versions but if it can come as far as it has in just the year i`ve used it then i wonder what they will do in 5???

Thats all very well until you come along and plug your brand new webcam/tv tuner stick.etc in and it doesn't work and your clueless about what you do.

Ubuntu 5? i thought they were on 7.04
Oh wait you mean 7.05?

[xpod]

Thats all very well until you come along and plug your brand new webcam/tv tuner stick.etc in and it doesn't work and your clueless about what you do.

Ubuntu 5? i thought they were on 7.04
Oh wait you mean 7.05?

If they have come as far as they have in the year i have used it then i wonder what they will do in 5(years).

I use my kids Eyetoys as webcams but...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam

If anyone is going out there way to buy a shiney new Ubuntu powered pc then surely they would also make sure they bought supported hardware too.

We`re all clueless when we do something for the very first time eh.

[dragon]

Originally Posted by xpod

If they have come as far as they have in the year i have used it then i wonder what they will do in 5(years).

I use my kids Eyetoys as webcams but...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam

If anyone is going out there way to buy a shiney new Ubuntu powered pc then surely they would also make sure they bought supported hardware too.

We`re all clueless when we do something for the very first time eh.

Yep

And yes ubutnu (and other distros) have come a LONG way in a short space of time.

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by xpod

If anyone is going out there way to buy a shiney new Ubuntu powered pc then surely they would also make sure they bought supported hardware too.

We`re all clueless when we do something for the very first time eh.

But that's just it, if the ordinary man in the street is going to buy a Linux box he won't want to have to bother about which hardware is supported.

He'll just want to go out & buy the kit that does exactly what he wants at the minimum cost & expect it to work.

It's not just the distro providers that need to work at things but the hardware guys too. More of them need to be supporting Linux by providing native drivers...