New PM - Page 4

cookie_365 · 28-06-2007, 18:21

I'm delighted to see that the word 'dour' hasn't yet crept into this thread about the new PM

Please please please can we keep it that way?

OK, I know it's now just appeared in the thread, but you see what I mean

Cobbydaler · 28-06-2007, 18:32

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

I'm delighted to see that the word 'dour' hasn't yet crept into this thread about the new PM

Please please please can we keep it that way?

OK, I know it's now just appeared in the thread, but you see what I mean

I'm sure we will be prudent in our use of the word...

Xaccers · 28-06-2007, 18:35

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

I'm delighted to see that the word 'dour' hasn't yet crept into this thread about the new PM

What's this thread got to do with a Belgian municipality?

28-06-2007, 19:33

Well thats the damned good thing about gordon we don't need to use your four letter D word when we have so many others to use to describe him. Let's see off the top of my head there is sneaky, underhanded, dispassionate, controlling, devious, troublemaking er thats it for now unfortunately i have at least a year of him to remember the others.

cookie_365 · 28-06-2007, 19:59

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Well thats the damned good thing about gordon we don't need to use your four letter D word when we have so many others to use to describe him. Let's see off the top of my head there is sneaky, underhanded, dispassionate, controlling, devious, troublemaking er thats it for now unfortunately i have at least a year of him to remember the others.

Hopefully the saddos who thought it was terribly terribly witty and rebellious to 'accidentally' spell 'Blair' as 'Bliar' will be hard pressed to come up with something similar for Brown

12noon · 28-06-2007, 20:08

Nice one. We've got Yvette Cooper & Ed Balls in the cabinet. That's good news for where i come from. Yvette is our local MP.

Husband & wife both in the cabinet.

**Damien** · 28-06-2007, 20:45

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

Hopefully the saddos who thought it was terribly terribly witty and rebellious to 'accidentally' spell 'Blair' as 'Bliar' will be hard pressed to come up with something similar for Brown

I hated it when people thought it was clever to do that

But I think Brown is even more open to one liners than Blair was.

28-06-2007, 20:47

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Originally Posted by 12noon

Husband & wife both in the cabinet.

Room for one more?

**Mick** · 28-06-2007, 22:03

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Originally Posted by cookie_365

Hopefully the saddos who thought it was terribly terribly witty and rebellious to 'accidentally' spell 'Blair' as 'Bliar' will be hard pressed to come up with something similar for Brown

Who said it was accidental? & Fyi, niether are those who have chosen to rebel by doing it are saddos. People are entitled to be miffed with the poor government that has been in office for just over 10 years now and now 'old timer' GB, gets to be PM through a non-electoral, undemocratic process, and some of us are suppose to sit here and smile and pretend everything is going to be alright now? Nope I won't and rightfully not many others will either.

Btw, It's not very hard pressing to find something suitable and accommodating for Gordon the Gopher?

I think not.... How about?

Brr, Nod, Go Now.

**Damien** · 28-06-2007, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Mick

Who said it was accidental? & Fyi, niether are those who have chosen to rebel by doing it are saddos. People are entitled to be miffed with the poor government that has been in office for just over 10 years now and now 'old timer' GB, gets to be PM through a non-electoral, undemocratic process, and some of us are suppose to sit here and smile and pretend everything is going to be alright now? Nope I won't and rightfully not many others will either.

Btw, It's not very hard pressing to find something suitable and accommodating for Gordon the Gopher?

I think not.... How about?

Brr, Nod, Go Now.

No, It is sad and stupid to debate using childish word-play. Bliar is not really shown sound, reasoned, debate/disapproval. Its perfectly fine to point out reasons for disliking the government. He was not saying that people were not entitled to be miffed just disagreeing with the way some people choose to do so.

Blair is a Poodle, Bliar is not clever, witty, or good debate. Its just childish and when you see someone using it you think of someone who has read it 100times before and is repeating it. Sheep like behaviour from people who are too lazy to think for themselves and decide to use newspaper spun headlines in converstation.

Also, were you calling for a election when Major took over?

TheDaddy · 28-06-2007, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Mick

Who said it was accidental? & Fyi, niether are those who have chosen to rebel by doing it are saddos. People are entitled to be miffed with the poor government.

Please it's like people referring to VM as Vomit Media because they are miffed at the poor service they receive, pretty childish imo, what will it achieve?

**Mick** · 28-06-2007, 22:33

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Please it's like people referring to VM as Vomit Media because they are miffed at the poor service they receive, pretty childish imo, what will it achieve?

Is it hell as like that at all.

One is a commercial product/service - the other is a crap government that is suppose to be serving the people, minus one crap ex-Prime Minister, so what do they go and do? Replace the old crap with er, old crap.

As the saying goes and applies very much so here, "Same ...., different day!"

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No, It is sad and stupid to debate using childish word-play. Bliar is not really shown sound, reasoned, debate/disapproval. Its perfectly fine to point out reasons for disliking the government. He was not saying that people were not entitled to be miffed just disagreeing with the way some people choose to do so.

That was their choice and they're not saddos for doing so either. It's like me, who could imply that you are a 'saddo' for supporting and defending a really crap government, but I ain't going to, that's your choice.

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Blair is a Poodle, Bliar is not clever, witty, or good debate. Its just childish and when you see someone using it you think of someone who has read it 100times before and is repeating it. Sheep like behaviour from people who are too lazy to think for themselves and decide to use newspaper spun headlines in converstation.

Rubbish.

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Also, were you calling for a election when Major took over?

Yes I was. Your point being?

28-06-2007, 22:33

Add to the fact tony blair is a damn liar he said he would serve a full third term if elected as prime minister he did not thats a lie he knew damn well he wasn't going to serve the full term. He told us we would get a referendum on the european treaty we are not going to get that so he lied again and those are just two examples so actually i think using the term bliar is very applicable.

As for gordon brown he has already said we don't need a referendum so not listening to the british people as he has stated recently. Fact is they are a bunch of self serving power hungry gits that don't give a rats about you me or anyone else other then themselves and their own ambition.

Sooner people realise that the sooner we might start voting with OUR brains and less by old loyalties maybe then we can get a government that does do what the people want rather then tell us all what we want and then doing the damn opposite.

As to the john major reference i don't remember him having a nice backdoor agreement with maggie to take power and he certainly didn't topple her out of downing street as gordon brown has done. Tony blair and gordon brown were supposed to be longtime friends funny how easily gordon found it to stab bliar in the back when a sniff of power came up.

TheDaddy · 28-06-2007, 22:46

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Originally Posted by Mick

Is it hell as like that at all.

One is a commercial product/service - the other is a crap government that is suppose to be serving the people, minus one crap ex-Prime Minister, so what do they go and do? Replace the old crap with er, old crap.

and what does calling blair a silly name do to rectify the situation, nothing, does it even make people feel better? Tbh I think people are more justified having a dig at VM than the government in this way, the actions of government are to important to be written of with a glib comment in the way some choose to because their tv is playing up

cookie_365 · 28-06-2007, 23:20

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Add to the fact tony blair is a damn liar he said he would serve a full third term if elected as prime minister he did not thats a lie he knew damn well he wasn't going to serve the full term. He told us we would get a referendum on the european treaty we are not going to get that so he lied again and those are just two examples so actually i think using the term bliar is very applicable.

As for gordon brown he has already said we don't need a referendum so not listening to the british people as he has stated recently. Fact is they are a bunch of self serving power hungry gits that don't give a rats about you me or anyone else other then themselves and their own ambition.

Sooner people realise that the sooner we might start voting with OUR brains and less by old loyalties maybe then we can get a government that does do what the people want rather then tell us all what we want and then doing the damn opposite.

As to the john major reference i don't remember him having a nice backdoor agreement with maggie to take power and he certainly didn't topple her out of downing street as gordon brown has done. Tony blair and gordon brown were supposed to be longtime friends funny how easily gordon found it to stab bliar in the back when a sniff of power came up.

As soon as someone uses the 'Tony Bliar' childishness I realise that they don't have anything intelligent to say so don't bother reading the rest of their post/blog/whatever. So I have no idea whether I agree with what they've said or not.

Think of all the great orators in history; I wonder if any of them would have done the 'Tony Bliar' thing.

Oh, and this isn't a pro-Blair post; it's an anti-childishness post. I remember a long long time ago someone wrote to the Guardian's question & answer column, whatever it was called - I know, I know, but I was a student, it was a long time ago, it wasn't a bad paper then - asking 'Could John Major be any more boring?'; I wish I'd written in with the first thing that sprang to mind, which was 'Well, by being as much of a smug, self satisfied prick like you'. I didn't like Major as a PM but that sort of childishness just really irritated me.