Council Tax doubled since Labour came to power - Page 4

sollp · 24-06-2007, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Ah ok.

Only, I don't owe you anything and I'm no thief

You sure?

Russ · 24-06-2007, 21:49

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Originally Posted by sollp

You sure?

Well ok, there was that milky bar I half-inched when I was 7 but I've really been doing my best to forget about that.

**Damien** · 24-06-2007, 21:50

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Well ok, there was that milky bar I half-inched when I was 7 but I've really been doing my best to forget about that.

Did you steal it from England

*Gets irrational mob together*

TheDaddy · 24-06-2007, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Damien

Did you steal it from England

*Gets irrational mob together*

Not really shown any remorse either, by trying to forget about it

Russ · 24-06-2007, 21:54

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Not really shown any remorse either, by trying to forget about it

At the time my mother made sure I was remorseful - it's the punishment I'm trying to forget

sollp · 24-06-2007, 21:57

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Originally Posted by Russ B

At the time my mother made sure I was remorseful - it's the punishment I'm trying to forget

Burn him

Russ · 24-06-2007, 22:01

It must be my failing eyes - I could have sworn your post just said "bum him".

I hate these cataracts

**Hugh** · 24-06-2007, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Russ B

It must be my failing eyes - I could have sworn your post just said "bum him".

I hate these cataracts

Shouldn't be using a PC whilst in a waterfall

sollp · 24-06-2007, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Russ B

It must be my failing eyes - I could have sworn your post just said "bum him".

I hate these cataracts

Ooh dear.

andygrif · 25-06-2007, 01:01

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Originally Posted by Damien

France, i think, force you to give to the nearest relative. I.E Child inherits from parents.

The hier (not spouse) is entitled to at least 50% by law I think, and no tax.

RXP · 25-06-2007, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Bill C

So why should those that don't work because they cannot be arsed pay nothing .

Because that's the fairest way to raise funds for public spending. What is currently happening is that masses of taxes are being diverted from income tax to all sorts of sales tax - this is regressive and hurts the poor more. Of course you can take it to extremes and target abusers of the system, but overall it's the best way. Your anger would probably be directed better at the super rich, rather than the 'lay abouts', who benefit far more from the welfare state than poor people (corporate welfare)

What should alarm anyone is that large corporations pay less tax than real people (30% versus 40%), they get tax cuts for a variety of reasons, escape taxes on dubious legal grounds and benefit from massive corporate welfare - subsidies, tariffs, various military/pharmaceutical projects that socialise risk, while priviatising profit. These profits are then tunneled into off shore bank accounts ,where they are free from tax when the rest of us earn tiny salaries in comparison and pay 40% of it to the government.

In the UK, we probably raise enough money from taxes to have the worlds best public services - unfortunately our governments are so corrupt that they sink billions into wars and oil, then claim that too much public spending might cause 'upwards inflationary pressure' to borrow the over used excuse.

sollp · 25-06-2007, 22:54

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Originally Posted by RXP

Because that's the fairest way to raise funds for public spending. What is currently happening is that masses of taxes are being diverted from income tax to all sorts of sales tax - this is regressive and hurts the poor more. Of course you can take it to extremes and target abusers of the system, but overall it's the best way. Your anger would probably be directed better at the super rich, rather than the 'lay abouts', who benefit far more from the welfare state than poor people (corporate welfare)

What should alarm anyone is that large corporations pay less tax than real people (30% versus 40%), they get tax cuts for a variety of reasons, escape taxes on dubious legal grounds and benefit from massive corporate welfare - subsidies, tariffs, various military/pharmaceutical projects that socialise risk, while priviatising profit. These profits are then tunneled into off shore bank accounts ,where they are free from tax when the rest of us earn tiny salaries in comparison and pay 40% of it to the government.

In the UK, we probably raise enough money from taxes to have the worlds best public services - unfortunately our governments are so corrupt that they sink billions into wars and oil, then claim that too much public spending might cause 'upwards inflationary pressure' to borrow the over used excuse.

Red Alert!!

jkat · 27-06-2007, 10:01

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Originally Posted by RXP

Because that's the fairest way to raise funds for public spending. What is currently happening is that masses of taxes are being diverted from income tax to all sorts of sales tax - this is regressive and hurts the poor more. Of course you can take it to extremes and target abusers of the system, but overall it's the best way. Your anger would probably be directed better at the super rich, rather than the 'lay abouts', who benefit far more from the welfare state than poor people (corporate welfare)

What should alarm anyone is that large corporations pay less tax than real people (30% versus 40%), they get tax cuts for a variety of reasons, escape taxes on dubious legal grounds and benefit from massive corporate welfare - subsidies, tariffs, various military/pharmaceutical projects that socialise risk, while priviatising profit. These profits are then tunneled into off shore bank accounts ,where they are free from tax when the rest of us earn tiny salaries in comparison and pay 40% of it to the government.

In the UK, we probably raise enough money from taxes to have the worlds best public services - unfortunately our governments are so corrupt that they sink billions into wars and oil, then claim that too much public spending might cause 'upwards inflationary pressure' to borrow the over used excuse.

Ramrod · 27-06-2007, 10:12

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Originally Posted by brundles

I still think council tax is a rip off though! What can't be escaped is that the average rises are a long way above inflation (however you present it) and the rises have been matched with service cuts.

Business rates make normal council tax look cheap! I've bought bigger premises for my london clinic in the last year and my business rates have shot up and I have to pay extra for refuse removal.....thats not covered!

I phoned up the council to ask them what I get for my business rates (bearing in mind that I live round the corner from my business premises and pay the highest band on that property). They couldn't tell me what I get for my money but sent me a booklet. The booklet simply explained how they calculate business rates and what happens to me if I don't pay them. There was no mention of what the council provides me with for my money!

Xaccers · 27-06-2007, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Business rates make normal council tax look cheap! I've bought bigger premises for my london clinic in the last year and my business rates have shot up and I have to pay extra for refuse removal.....thats not covered!

I phoned up the council to ask them what I get for my business rates (bearing in mind that I live round the corner from my business premises and pay the highest band on that property). They couldn't tell me what I get for my money but sent me a booklet. The booklet simply explained how they calculate business rates and what happens to me if I don't pay them. There was no mention of what the council provides me with for my money!

Isn't that like a protection racket?
You pay your rates because if you don't, the things they described in the booklet will happen to you?