Car passenger beaten to death by mob

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

A group of gurkhas also kicked a 13 year old boy to death in a bar because he and his mates got lippy.
Who out of the group actually killed the boy was undetermined, so they all got off scott free.

That didn't happen in the UK though, did it - if I remember rightly?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

That didn't happen in the UK though, did it - if I remember rightly?

Nope, but it also didn't happen in America, showing that when a mob gets going, it doesn't matter what country it's in.
Just look at the Salman protests at the moment.

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Nope, but it also didn't happen in America, showing that when a mob gets going, it doesn't matter what country it's in.
Just look at the Salman protests at the moment.

Oh no, I perfectly agree with you - I just wasn't sure if you were saying that all of those things had happened in the UK.

[alferret]

I feel that I need to write a 6 paragraph 700 word essay on why I stated in my first post in this thread Only in America, if only to help THE other posters to see both sides of the coin.

Let me just state for the record that my statement could be taken in 2 ways.
Firstly one could construed that I meant ONLY IN AMERICA means that’s this sort of mentality and mob culture would only happen and could only happen in America therefore tarring all Americans with the same brush and nowhere else COULD it happen.
Or
Secondly and how it was meant was that this particular sort of incident as far as I know HAS only happened in America, so therefore my comment ONLY IN AMERICA.
I would also like to clarify a few points made by others where comparing the deceased passenger to a paedophile.
If someone is accused of being a peado then that is a catalyst, where something or someone has started a rumour, spread lies, starting with the bloke next door saying that this person maybe a peado and by the time it gets down the road then this person is a known peado on the sex offenders list and has done 6 years for child molestation and downloading child porn off of the net. That is a catalyst, the start of something that by definition mob culture will cling to like a life line, a law given unto others to do harm to innocent people because of rumours.
Where was the catalyst in the incident of the killing in the car park?
Read the news report on the link supplied by the OP.
The guy got out of the passenger side of the car he was by definition a Good Samaritan as he went to check on the girl.

According to reports, the driver of the car hit the girl at a low speed while moving through a car park, and then stopped so his passenger could check on her condition.
But the angry crowd quickly turned on David Rivas Morales, 40, beating him before leaving him lying on the ground.
He was taken to hospital but pronounced dead soon afterwards. A preliminary autopsy listed "blunt force trauma" as the cause of death, the Associated Press reported.

He wasn’t a drug dealer or paedophile, someone accused of downloading kiddie porn,
Or

A tenant who hadn't paid rent for 3 months, and his ******* gf and her drug addict joyriding loser kids!

This was for all intentions an innocent person trying to be a Good Samaritan.
I may be a bit blunt, I may be a bit un-educated maybe even a bit bigoted and blinkered, but by saying only in America I mean that AFAIK this particular sort of incident i.e.: car park mob killing culture attacks on caring passenger of car has not happened in the UK.
@ Xaccers
For you and yours to be attacked, for what the previous tenant had done, and for you to be the victim is totally out of order. I do sympathise with you.
@ Osem
They may well have been innocent but the catalyst was being accused of being a paedophile and the ingrates not discerning between peadiatrition and peadophile, not by getting out of a car trying to help someone and being killed for the privilege.
@ Gavin
Which victim? The guy who got killed, the little girl who got hit by the car or the little girl who will probably be traumatised for many years after seeing such a vicious killing?
There is nothing great or good about mob mentality and FYI I have been the subject of mob mentality about 13\14 years ago. I know what its like to be on the receiving end of a good kicking (hospitalisation) for decking a bloke who was hitting his girlfriend and then being set upon by his mates.

I guess I will never be popular for saying what I see, but hey ho I haven’t got a high horse to get off at any time in the near future

Just as an after thought in this claim culture world we live in who will benefit from this, the guy's family for being killed, the child for being hit by a car or the child who had to watch a baying crowd beat a man to death who went to help her? discuss please!

[D_Skids]

I will probably get flamed for this but here goes.

The problem with Mob Culture is that, generally, the 'mob' doesn't care what the reason is, they just see the chance to give somebody a good kicking and get away with it.

Most of them couldn't care who the person is or what the have meant to have done, they just get pleasure out of causing hurt to people without getting any comeback.

They cannot be called animals because there are no animals on gods earth that can be so vile as humans.

This is the sad world we live in unfortunately. My heart goes out to anybody who has been on the receiving end to anything like this.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by alferret

@ Osem
They may well have been innocent but the catalyst was being accused of being a paedophile and the ingrates not discerning between peadiatrition and peadophile, not by getting out of a car trying to help someone and being killed for the privilege.
!

I don't excuse at all what happened to the passenger of the car or the mob involved. As yet we don't have the full story as to what he may have said or done and of course a little girl was actually hurt during the incident in which the passenger was involved - albeit by accident and not, it seems, seriously.

All I would add though is that in the case I cite, there wasn't an incident warranting ANY form of public concern or response in the first place and, of course, the paediatrician gets in/out of his/her car every day to help children.

It's the supreme irony - a person who devotes their life to saving children is confused with one who devotes their life to abusing children for no other reason than terminology and ignorance. Being attacked can all too easily lead to death, even unintentionally, and I consider both incidents to be an example of the very worst of human behaviour. That is my point in response to your initial claim that stuff like this only happens in the US.

[Xaccers]

The catalyst was the little girl getting hit by the car.
Someone in the car got out and that's all the mob needed.
Being associated with the car, meant beaing associated with hitting the girl.

Originally Posted by alferret

He wasn’t a drug dealer or paedophile, someone accused of downloading kiddie porn,

I see, so you won't mind us all coming round to your house to beat the hell out of you tonight then. Just as long as we accuse you of being a drug dealer or peadophile first .......

[punky]

Originally Posted by alferret

@ Gavin
Which victim?

The paedatrician. "Its OK, they thought you were a paedophile, so you can understand..."

As you are quite willing to blanket 250m people with the fixed image of America and Americans that you have in your head, it stands to reason why you think its understandable someone can confuse a paedophile with a paedatrician.

Re mob culture
CNN
"There were conflicting accounts of how many people were in the area. Police originally estimated 2,000 to 3,000, and a woman who lives at the complex said hundreds who had been at a Juneteenth festival filled the parking lot and street.
But late Wednesday police spokeswoman Toni Chovanetz said only 20 people were in the area where the assault occurred.
Chovanetz also said there was no connection to the nearby city-sponsored festival for Juneteenth, which commemorates Texas slaves getting the word that they had been freed."