smoking and the pub

[c_r]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

I think you'll find I already did.

Well thanks very much. Seriously though, smoking is the only habit that directly affects other people (i.e. gives them cancer). As far as I can see it's absolutely indefensible.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Sorry Russ, but it shows your wanton disregard for your own health that you would get into a ring with a stranger without first insisting that they, beyond physical injury, don't represent a threat to your health - yet you're happy to bleat on about the "smell" of smokers who are complying with your right to be protected from the by products of their addiction - a perfectly good analogy I think you'll find.

And your above post shows your wanton ignorance for me and what goes on in pro wrestling.

You have NO IDEA what preparation goes on in to a wrestling match.

You have NO IDEA of what hygiene standards the promotion I work for insists on.

You have NO IDEA of the high standards I expect of anyone I step in to the ring with.

Yet you feel qualified enough to make the above cock-eyed assessment.

So no, awful analogy.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Let's not get hung up on your "faith" perseution complex. I stated it was a bizarre interpretation of one of the tenets of your faith and that is exactly what it is - I'm not about to get into a theological debate over a display of your own contradictiory ignorance, sorry.

Lets move on and stick to the subject at hand.

So you're permitted to take the thread off-topic to have a dig at my faith and I'm not? Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Firstly my faith is none of your business. Secondly I don't (and have never done) judge you on your beliefs so kindly return the gesture. Thirdly you know nothing about how I apply my faith to my life.

Please stick to subjects you know more than nothing about.

Do all you have to take full STI tests Russ???

[Russ]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Do all you have to take full STI tests Russ???

If an appropriate thread comes up, I'll happily answer this plus completely disintergrate Mr Angry's argument at the same time.

Ok sorry but there was a point I was making kinda on topic as a possible "passive" way of giving someone a problem . Thanks for your reply though Russ

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Russ B

And your above post shows your wanton ignorance for me and what goes on in pro wrestling.

You have NO IDEA what preparation goes on in to a wrestling match.

You have NO IDEA of what hygiene standards the promotion I work for insists on.

You have NO IDEA of the high standards I expect of anyone I step in to the ring with.

Yet you feel qualified enough to make the above cock-eyed assessment.

So no, awful analogy.



So you're permitted to take the thread off-topic to have a dig at my faith and I'm not? Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Firstly my faith is none of your business. Secondly I don't (and have never done) judge you on your beliefs so kindly return the gesture. Thirdly you know nothing about how I apply my faith to my life.

Please stick to subject you know more than nothing about.

Russ,

You're a moderator - do your homework on the logfiles and check where my current daytime posts originate from. You'll find that my current consultancy would suggest that I DO know what preparation goes into a pro wrestling match (or any sporting event attended by the public for that matter ) and not only do I have an IDEA of the hygiene standards but I actually draft the legislation for them. There are posters on these boards who can confirm this.

As for your distinctly personal attack on my supposed attack on your faith it's about time you stopped portraying yourself as some sort of whipping boy everytime someone asks you a question out of genuine interest that you find too akward to answer.

On the subject of answers perhaps you'll answer me this?

If, according to you, the exchange of bodily fluids between two consenting (be that sporting or otherwise) adults and any resulting damage to health is a matter of them being "fully aware of what will happen" and that they are "completely accepting of this as it's part and parcel of the job" are you condoning / accepting the risks associated with the professional practices of prostitutes - or are they "special"?

I'm not interested in your "based on faith" answer - I want to know what YOU think.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Russ,

You're a moderator - do your homework on the logfiles and check where my current daytime posts originate from. You'll find that my current consultancy would suggest that I DO know what preparation goes into a pro wrestling match (or any sporting event attended by the public for that matter ) and not only do I have an IDEA of the hygiene standards but I actually draft the legislation for them. There are posters on these boards who can confirm this.

But the very fact you've brought this up clearly proves you know nothing about it.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

As for your distinctly personal attack on my supposed attack on your faith it's about time you stopped portraying yourself as some sort of whipping boy everytime someone asks you a question out of genuine interest that you find too akward to answer.

You wish.

My faith has nothing to do with this thread so kindly don't bring it up.

On the subject of answers perhaps you'll answer me this?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

If, according to you, the exchange of bodily fluids between two consenting (be that sporting or otherwise) adults and any resulting damage to health is a matter of them being "fully aware of what will happen" and that they are "completely accepting of this as it's part and parcel of the job" are you condoning / accepting the risks associated with the professional practices of prostitutes - or are they "special"?

You're asking me for my views on a subject - prostutution - that I have no experience of so any answer I give is hypothetical.

The risk of passing on any kind of dangerous disease/infection during a wrestling match is somewhere between miniscule and zero. I have one of the promotors I work for on msn right now and I asked him what the chances are. His reply was in the 27 years he's been in the business, he's never heard of it happening. That's not a cast-iron gauarantee, but 27 years speaks for itself I think you'll agree.

Obviously you cannot apply the same standards to prostitution as it's an entirely different matter and my original reply which you're getting in a paddy over was clearly aimed at pro wrestling ie a subject I do actually have knowledge and experience in.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Russ B

But the very fact you've brought this up clearly proves you know nothing about it.

Yes, of course Russ, you're right. How could I ever have doubted your ability not to be proven wrong? After all, my mortgage and standard of living depend on it.

Originally Posted by Russ B

You wish.

My faith has nothing to do with this thread so kindly don't bring it up.

My earlier post in which I stated "Lets move on and stick to the subject at hand." refers. Please try to keep up.

Originally Posted by Russ B

You're asking me for my views on a subject - prostutution - that I have no experience of so any answer I give is hypothetical.

I'm quite prepared to take your word on that. So what's your experience of the afterlife then?

Originally Posted by Russ B

The risk of passing on any kind of dangerous disease/infection during a wrestling match is somewhere between miniscule and zero. I have one of the promotors I work for on msn right now and I asked him what the chances are. His reply was in the 27 years he's been in the business, he's never heard of it happening. That's not a cast-iron gauarantee, but 27 years speaks for itself I think you'll agree.

Perhaps he should spend more time factually researching instead of chatting on msn / promoting? 27 years of ignorant bliss can be dispelled. The HSE site is free to use you know.

Originally Posted by Russ B

Obviously you cannot apply the same standards to prostitution as it's an entirely different matter and my original reply which you're getting in a paddy over was clearly aimed at pro wrestling ie a subject I do actually have knowledge and experience in.

Oh right, your absolute clarity made all the difference there. Can we have an answer now please?

What sort of comment is "getting in a paddy over" supposed to be?

Are you having a pop at me because of my nationality? That's not very.....you know the drill.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Yes, of course Russ, you're right. How could I ever have doubted your ability not to be proven wrong? After all, my mortgage and standard of living depend on it.

So how many years of actively taking part of pro-wrestling do you have?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

My earlier post in which I stated "Lets move on and stick to the subject at hand." refers. Please try to keep up.

If only you'd have stuck to that. See below in bold....

I'm quite prepared to take your word on that. So what's your experience of the afterlife then?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Perhaps he should spend more time factually researching instead of chatting on msn / promoting? 27 years of ignorant bliss can be dispelled here to cite but one instance. The HSE site is free to use you know.

Yes.....so what has the story of Chris Kanyon being discriminated against over his sexuality have to do with my promoter not hearing of any diseases or viruses passed on through wrestling in 27 years?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Oh right, your absolute clarity made all the difference there. Can we have an answer now please?

It's not my fault you didn't read something which disagrees with you with an open mind. And I answered it at the bottom of post 1432.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

What sort of comment is "getting in a paddy over" supposed to be?

Are you having a pop at me because of my nationality? That's not very.....you know the drill.

Oh come on, now you're really scraping the barrel.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Russ B

So how many years of actively taking part of pro-wrestling do you have?



If only you'd have stuck to that. See below in bold....





Yes.....so what has the story of Chris Kanyon being discriminated against over his sexuality have to do with my promoter not hearing of any diseases or viruses passed on through wrestling in 27 years?



It's not my fault you didn't read something which disagrees with you with an open mind.



Oh come on, now you're really scraping the barrel.

All out of grown up answers are we?

[Russ]

As far as I can tell, I 'have' answered you, however quite possibly not the answers you were hoping for. You going to take a turn at answering my questions?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Russ B

As far as I can tell, I 'have' answered you, however quite possibly not the answers you were hoping for. You going to take a turn at answering my questions?

You answer mine and then I answer yours. It's called protocol / decorum / manners.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

I will be quite happy about the ban when it comes into force and I really do not mind if people smell of smoke its upto them I inflict my farts on anyone near me when I need to blow and sometimes they smell a hell of a lot worse than smoke on clothes

A local bar tender where I live blogged this.
http://www.chrishalleron.com/archives/225.html

[Mal]

Very mature...

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

You answer mine and then I answer yours. It's called protocol / decorum / manners.

Quid pro quo eh? Don't fancy some fava beans with a nice Chianti do you...?

I have answered your questions.