Vista pros / cons and blunders

[The Jackal]

Post em here. What do you think so far ?

What about 64bit vista ? Worth installing or pairing with an intel dual core ?

I'm installing 32bit ultimate at the moment and will prolly be keeping with it for a good few weeks

64 bit will only run with digitally signed drivers so support is less so thats a con.

Pro DX10 of course

Con uses loads of ram and needs plenty to start with

Pro ram is very cheap at the mo

con some software your used to wont work
pro most of the above will be updated as its now Vista thats mainstream OS

Con for you its not linux

Right - I'll have a go first - I'm sure Zing will have something to say!

At the moment it's not worth the upgrade because of incompatibility with some software and hardware. It's still quite buggy - had a few crashes myself.

The current svchost.exe / CPU @ 100% issue exists on Vista - for XP there is a fix - none at the moment for Vista.

Aero is a resource hogger - I've disabled this on any Vista install - even if it's capable of running the Aero effects. There is absolutely no justification for it to "look nice" in a business environment or for a home user - whats the point?

I'd wait a few months for the problems to be sorted / SP1.

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Damm - beat me too it!!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Con for you its not linux

LOLz You spelt that wrong it's Loonix heh

Well I'm finding windows almost usable and almost as fluid as my linux desktop on dual core so I thought I'd give vista a try.

I just hope the install doesn't loose its edge as registry a disk fragmenation grows with time - would also be nice to tweak it and understand more of its inerds

[DocDutch]

crc have you tried PClinux 2007 yet??? running with it at work and okay its only TR4 its bloody excellent (and heres me a windows monkey)


but on the subject of Vista, I've been running it since November on my home machine and havent seen many problems, slowly all companies are getting the drivers for it but some are taking the p**s ie sonyericsson.

havent had a single bsod on my home machine (am touching wood right now)

[Tricky]

I've been running 64Bit for a bit now and majority of my software has worked without a problem, yes some old fav's didn't but at least I can see all my 4gb of memory rather than the 3.4gb that 32bit version let me.

No problems with hanging or anything so driver issues with Media Centre at first but updates have sorted that.

Not overclocked at all as some people have reported issues but many others are OK - My machine just seems OK as is

[The Jackal]

Anyone hacked around with vLite ?

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Well not sure of what to make of these stats in favour of 64bit vista :

http://64-bit-computers.com/windows-...benchmark.html

[TheBlueRaja]

Been running 64bit Vista for a month or two now - no problems...

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

Been running 64bit Vista for a month or two now - no problems...

Cheers mate I'll have to give it a try.

Phew FINALLY got vista almost installed !

Can you believe it ! " I don't have a spare DVD-rom drive around " and just couldn't be asked to rip it out of another machine. Ended up using vLite via the network (was getting hash errors hence the work around).

OOOOoooooo I'm SOooooooooooo excited LOLz

Thanks guys for the input btw.

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by DocDutch

crc have you tried PClinux 2007 yet??? running with it at work and okay its only TR4 its bloody excellent (and heres me a windows monkey)

Excellent OS, been using it for a couple of years now & TR4 is the mutt's nuts!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Excellent OS, been using it for a couple of years now & TR4 is the mutt's nuts!

oi oi get off no linux nerds allowed. This is vista only thread.

Just kidding mate don't take what I say to heart.

Yup tried PClinux 2007 on Coby's recommendation but settled for kubuntu with fluxbox in the end. Love the amount of packages available under ubuntu.

And back to vista... Yay finally installed and looking good. Now to install me drivers and stuff...

I'll have to try 64bit when I'm comfortable with it.

ps vLite worked very nicely indeed

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So far so good. Vista is nice but why suck half the OS in RAM lol IE7 made its first virgin crash ahhhhh lovely.

Browsing folders/IE a lot faster. Having some teething problems installing services but thats probably vista being anal with security

Overall a hella lot better than the betas

[The Jackal]

The Good

Yes ! About time n all. Resource monitor a lot more comprehensive than before. Thought I saw a netstat type of sockets open by process id but cant find it now ?

Browsing folders/IE a lot faster.

Start menu is what XP should have been.

Indexing Options laid open to all

Tablet PC input

iSCSI looks promising but I got the feeling it'll be a balls up.

The Bad

Memory usage

Aero very disappointing not as thrilling as I expected. Not being biased but Beryl literally knocks your socks off.

Sidebar waste of space and urrrrgly. Yahoo gadgets is way better with a ton of gadgets to go with it.

No fault of microsoft but Nvidia drivers REALLY suck, all my 3d benches are down
Well actually I need to understand and tweak this area better - I'm still not sure whats going on here

Neutral

Systems architecture is still very much windows XP I'm not sure if this is good or bad however it feels like very much of a rewrite gets a from me tbh. Not a bad effort at all that should set the foundations for a very competitive OS in the future.

Sys admin tools and raw access to group/local policies et al still like XP... Reading up on additions to gpmc.

I'm not brave enough to use Vistas media tagging index(/db).

Unknown

Offline folders : fixed, better or worse anyone know ?

Good fair review there mate
You say system architecture is the same but Windows is windows and is all very much of a muchly since 95 (I know older versions were the same idea but urgghh lol) In fact all mainstream operating systems (not counting dos and other text based command line jobbies) are pretty much the same you click a button a box opens you click something in the box and another box opens etc

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Good fair review there mate
You say system architecture is the same but Windows is windows and is all very much of a muchly since 95 (I know older versions were the same idea but urgghh lol) In fact all mainstream operating systems (not counting dos and other text based command line jobbies) are pretty much the same you click a button a box opens you click something in the box and another box opens etc

Well when I say architecture, I mean both software and usability architecture. However systems architecture is virtually a complete rewrite and gets me - its a step in the right direction for microsoft (well actually the only way to go to keep up).

It even feels as if microsoft finally implemented real(ish) kernel level user and system modes.
(Investigating this at the mo)

Yeah I was over simplifying for the mainsteam reader