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Old 12-03-2007, 09:50   #16
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

fwiw, the mailshot I recieved this morning from Sky just referred to 'Virgin Media' (and that only once).

Also, this month's VM invoice arrived in the same post, with VM branding and logo at the top. I noticed that the DD last month was from VM, not NTL.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:15   #17
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Just for the fun of it.....



Erm....who are BSB?
There's a blast from the past. IIRC the likes of UK Gold weren't even on Sky back in the day, they were on BSB only. I always thought the Squariel was much nicer looking than the Sky dish, especially bearing in mind that the early Sky dishes were white and much larger than the current digital ones.

Mind you, seeing as a Sky dish is a chav status symbol I wouldn't be surprised if the decision to decomission the BSB broadcast system was led by the marketing department.

As for 'NTL/Virgin' - it's playground name-calling but why is anybody surprised? Sky has always played dirty. I doubt it makes very much difference.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:26   #18
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

A Sky dish is a chav status symbol??

Bugger..where can I get some camo netting?
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:35   #19
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Bugger..where can I get some camo netting?
Indeedy.

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Oh, the ignominy... will it still work in a loft?
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Old 12-03-2007, 22:24   #22
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

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There's a blast from the past. IIRC the likes of UK Gold weren't even on Sky back in the day, they were on BSB only.
UKGold wasn't part of BSB, in fact it wasn't even on the same satellite. It used to be free to air on a weak (from the UK at least) Astra transponder at 19° East since it wasn't even originally intended for UK viewers. BSB were on the Marcopolo satellites at 31° West.
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

What I cant understand is why they keep making reference to VM on sky1, particularly sunday nights (for obvious reason)

What's the point? if you're seeing it you're already on sky, no VM customers can see it.
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

Fair point. Perhaps they're hoping that everyone will have gone around to their friend's house with a dish...seems like a long shot to me too!
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UKGold wasn't part of BSB, in fact it wasn't even on the same satellite. It used to be free to air on a weak (from the UK at least) Astra transponder at 19° East since it wasn't even originally intended for UK viewers. BSB were on the Marcopolo satellites at 31° West.
Hmmmm ... I wasn't terribly sure of it even as I was posting it. What I'm really thinking of is a channel, broadcast on BSB only, that committed to showing re-runs of the likes of Dr Who and Blakes Seven and presumably other stuff as well. This is what had me (unsuccessfully as it turned out) trying to persuade my mum to get a squariel. After the creation of BSkyB, the merged service was showing those old shows and continues to do so on UK Gold.

If it wasn't UK Gold, can anyone remember which of the Magellan channels it was?
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

Sounds like the Galaxy channel and it did have a big G as it's logo so I can see where the confusion came from.
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Re: Sky are at it again!!!

Am wondering if the SKY impetus will slowly come to a grinding halt. I say this, as two of the the "big three" popular midweek shows Stargate SG1 and SG Atlantis finished very recently, shortly to be followed by, Battlestar Galactica within the next couple of weeks.

Shows which (by the way) are readily available as torrents for those stalwarts who weren't coerced in to switching to SKY. So (to me) any withdrawal symptoms are (now) well and truly quashed.

Have noticed that series one of Lost has appeared on teleport too first of three I believe ;o).

Ho hum!

Si thee!
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So much for the "Cease and Desist" order that Virgin Media slapped on Sky a few weeks back!!

I noticed yesterday that there was an advert in the supplement that comes with the Mail. This advert was for the three services (Telephone, TV and Broadband). Sky do not appear to have made any effort to hide the reference to NTL/Virgin.

The advert states:



The same reference is made in the small print at the bottom of the advert!!

I also noticed another advert in the centre of the Sunday People. This was advertising the Sports Channels. Again, reference is made to the "Old" name.

The advert states:



I honestly think Sky are upping the ante again!! Perhaps they are trying to reach court before the beginning of next month?? What do Sky think this is going to accomplish?? Yes, yesterdays advert could have been explained as a (big) error on the part of Sky and the publisher.

But to have two different adverts within a day of each other!! This has to be a deliberate attempt to enrage Virgin Media again!!

Oh, by the way, I tried uploading scanned images of the adverts, but they were too big!!


Not being funny but so what.

Your getting upset over a newspaper ad
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Not being funny but so what.

Your getting upset over a newspaper ad
Erm, who said I was gettin upset by this?? I was only bringing something to the attention of Virgin Media Customers!

If you had read the entire post (which isnt large by any amount) you would have come to the conclusion that I am not (and most people arent) bothered with Skys publicity stunts! See Post Number 4!!

Anyhow, that post was written last Sunday - this is now old news!
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If you had read the entire post (which isnt large by any amount) you would have come to the conclusion that I am not (and most people arent) bothered with Skys publicity stunts! See Post Number 4!!
Well I am.

I think both companies are wasting money...and ultimately it's money their customers are paying. How is the childish spat improving the service?

VirginMedia have more pointless adverts than, err, a pointless advert thing.

Tons and tons telling us about NTL:Telewest changing [why send one letter when you can send 10, eh?] and no worthwhile improvements at all to the service to justify all the shouting about it.

Ideas - implementation - then advertise, don't shout about nothing.

The only changes I see are that they've pretended that on demand is a new channel called 'Virgin Central' whilst making a bunch of old repeats that are on the on demand service free. Wow.

I know both companies have to advertise their products but Ideas - implementation - then advertise, don't shout about nothing.

But, for example I'd think VM were spending much better if in 2007 they actually improved the service by giving customers a set top box that works and that is worthy of the 21st century we're currently in - as standard rather than charging £10 or £15 extra for it.

That'd be better than the "free" TV gimmick - give the people that are happy to pay for XL TV, something to make it worthwhile, and then you could advertise that. Much better than spending our money advertising your crying about big bad bully sky or spending it in legal fees and then more advertising telling us "Sir Richard says 'Today we spent most of your money on Brian Fothergill QC, because I like seeing my beard in the paper...err no I mean it's better for customers...a V+ box? Nah, seriously you want to read a full page advert in the mirror telling you I care about you...don't you? Well, whatever, it's a lot easier for me to fax the advert copy than I would be to actually make the service better and I reckon 75% of customers will believe the service is better if they read it in my advert'

I'd think they were better if instead of only having the cheap 2 for £20 and 3 for £30 and 4 for £40 packages, which all have slow internet, and two overly expensive £85 and £125 packages that both have 10mb, they'd had some middle ground - even NTL had a £49.99 package with 4mb internet and Family pack TV.

Or better yet, forget the "bundles" - they were a symptom of NTL:Telewest's in ability to do any better. If they'd spent some of the money that went to Uma putting a system together instead that meant customers could pick which TV [XL or whatever] / Internet [XL, L or whatever] / Phone M - mix and match what they actually wanted, see the price for it and order it, all on one page, rather than having the fixed, useless "marketing" bundles then it would be worth shouting about.

I'd think they'd spent better if they actually made NTL:Telewest better rather than just spending money on advertising the new name and trying to convince that flogging a £10 sim card alongside the old NTL and telewest packages with a new black and red logo is somehow a new and innovative service that's never been done. Shouting about nothing, on the existing customers coin.

As for the "dispute" - an untrained monkey could have come up with better ideas and a better response, but no, what we got was just more and more adverts, silly childish immature dummy spitting, on top of what was already a ridiculous amount of pointless VirginMedia PR.

I hope someone at VirginMedia is listening and there's a plan to actually do something different and then shout about it. Of course, if you have some ideas and manage to find the team to implement good ideas, you'll need to advertise them - all over again.
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