Virgin Media too Confident?

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Originally Posted by King Of Fools

So, of the people who have tuned into Sky, found the channels missing, gone to the special Virgin Media URL and voted, only two-thirds of them actually wanted to watch Sky in the first place!

I agree, that vote is far more interesting. I would have expected it to be in the 90s to keep Sky One, i would have voted to keep it, but only on certain conditions. The fact that a third didn't even want it is strange considering the first vote. I think it goes to prove that the figures for both votes are a load of rubbish.

Agree with what was said above though in a previous post, a vote using your Virgin password, or a phone poll to customers, they are the only ways to use figures and claim any truth in them.

[VirginMediaSucks]

Of course these polls are open to manipulation.. and the people who tend to vote in them are usuaully motivated to do so for whatever reason. However, I can't imagine for a moment that VM expected nearly half of the votes to go to the "bugger it, I'm off" option.

Only VM know the true figures of people leaving, they should be able to come up with an estimate of the potential losses from the past couple of days cancellations.

YouGov are also doing a more balanced survey on this and the whole issue of multiplay carriers. I don't know if they'll make the results public, or if its privately commissioned.. but nonetheless someone is probably paying to see the figures.

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by AndyCambs

Or Sky employees (heaven forbid....)

Why is that your stock answer when anyone posts something you don't agree with?

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I'm not sure it's worth getting wound up about, but i don't think Paul was eluding to only Virgin Media eployees, i'm sure he meant employees from any organisation!

[Carl J]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Indeed. I wonder why VM even bothered with such a poll. It's just begging to be abused. I wonder whether a memo went round Sky head office encouraging staff to take part.

Absolutely. Sky employees of course have nothing better to do with their time than distort VM polls, and it's not like anyone would notice hundreds and hundreds of votes coming from internal BSkyB addresses is it?

Should I get a 666 avatar, or perhaps go into selling foil hats?

I'm quite astonished that I'm not burning up in sunlight and can still touch holy water seeing as I work for the anti-Christ

Anyway gotta go it's the Sky Friday afternoon baby eating session now.

[mertle]

no I dont think virgin media is too confident.

However I do think there getting victimised by the rubbish press biased to Sky. Who owns the news murdock.

I said on another post if Sky keep bashing lie after lie enough times then people will believe anything that Sky is the victim and not the perpetrator. Virgin media need to come out now and force the issue else like Ntl they lose. YEs they have lost programmes is hard life. But going to sky still not the right option. Sky if they got a monopoly would just put prices up. They are in debt they cannot sustain the spending without cuts. With poor viewing figures its sky one or the so called blue ribboned shows will get the chop anyway. I bet Sky would never admit this is likely.

Originally Posted by Carl J

Absolutely. Sky employees of course have nothing better to do with their time than distort VM polls, and it's not like anyone would notice hundreds and hundreds of votes coming from internal BSkyB addresses is it?

Should I get a 666 avatar, or perhaps go into selling foil hats?

I'm quite astonished that I'm not burning up in sunlight and can still touch holy water seeing as I work for the anti-Christ

Rupert Murdoch has stated quite categorically that he is not the Anti-Christ.
The Anti-Christ, in fact, works for Rupert and regards him as a role-model.

Originally Posted by Carl J

Anyway gotta go it's the Sky Friday afternoon baby eating session now.

I thought that was only for senior management?

[Carl J]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Rupert Murdoch has stated quite categorically that he is not the Anti-Christ.
The Anti-Christ, in fact, works for Rupert and regards him as a role-model.

Hell was bought in a leveraged buyout

I thought that was only for senior management?

For morale reasons it's now extended to all staff, it's a nice promotion from the usual Friday afternoon dog kicking.

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Originally Posted by mertle

no I dont think virgin media is too confident.

However I do think there getting victimised by the rubbish press biased to Sky. Who owns the news murdock.

I said on another post if Sky keep bashing lie after lie enough times then people will believe anything that Sky is the victim and not the perpetrator. Virgin media need to come out now and force the issue else like Ntl they lose. YEs they have lost programmes is hard life. But going to sky still not the right option. Sky if they got a monopoly would just put prices up. They are in debt they cannot sustain the spending without cuts. With poor viewing figures its sky one or the so called blue ribboned shows will get the chop anyway. I bet Sky would never admit this is likely.

Murdoch doesn't own the beeb dude, moreover Sky have some debt but even with that debt, the spending and the loss of revenue from VM Sky will still end each quarter making profit, and that's real profit after all expenditure

I think you're thinking of Virgin Media when commenting about companies being in debt and unable to sustain spending - VM barely make an operating profit and once the interest, etc, has taken its' cut they are still losing 8 figures a month.

Originally Posted by Carl J

Absolutely. Sky employees of course have nothing better to do with their time than distort VM polls, and it's not like anyone would notice hundreds and hundreds of votes coming from internal BSkyB addresses is it?

Should I get a 666 avatar, or perhaps go into selling foil hats?

I'm quite astonished that I'm not burning up in sunlight and can still touch holy water seeing as I work for the anti-Christ

Anyway gotta go it's the Sky Friday afternoon baby eating session now.

Just as long as you don't salt your baby before you eat it, that would be cruel, and no good for your blood pressure.

I assume Sky employees generally have home broadband. It wouldn't be too difficult for people to do it in a way that doesn't give away a Sky IP.

And if I was a Sky PR man, considering the level at which they have pitched their media campaign against VM so far, I wouldn't consider it a waste of my employees' time - I'd consider sabotaging VM to be a core activity. It certainly seems as if Sky thinks this way anyway, considering the way they have been carrying on for some weeks now.

[AndyCambs]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Just as long as you don't salt your baby before you eat it, that would be cruel, and no good for your blood pressure.

I assume Sky employees generally have home broadband. It wouldn't be too difficult for people to do it in a way that doesn't give away a Sky IP.

And if I was a Sky PR man, considering the level at which they have pitched their media campaign against VM so far, I wouldn't consider it a waste of my employees' time - I'd consider sabotaging VM to be a core activity. It certainly seems as if Sky thinks this way anyway, considering the way they have been carrying on for some weeks now.

So very true - I wouldn't put it past them adding to various forums with mis-information either

[Tod]

Originally Posted by King Of Fools

So, of the people who have tuned into Sky, found the channels missing, gone to the special Virgin Media URL and voted, only two-thirds of them actually wanted to watch Sky in the first place!

Thats a really good point!

[MovedGoalPosts]

Looks like the poll on that VM site has been pulled. - At least i can't find it on the fairplay stuff anymore.

[tweetiepooh]

Anyhow, as both a VM employee and customer what's wrong with having a say. What if in a family one works for each, now that would make for an intersting time, new Reality show anyone?? Polls should be set so only one vote per user, don't need to record the vote, just that had voted. Anonymous votes are far too easy to "cheat".

Me, I miss the channels, but I get subsidised service so am not going to jump. Would I jump if I didn't? Probably not. Don't like Sky (the company) so would not want to directly give them money.

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Anyhow, as both a VM employee and customer what's wrong with having a say.

I agree, having ones say is perfectly healthy - and it doesn't matter who you work for to have your say.

It's when 'having your say' (and I am not pointing this statement at you Teetie) crosses the line of vehmently attacking anyone with a differnt and/or oposing point of view. And some take this to an apparent display of being brainwashed - by what I have no idea, but wierd that something as insignificant as a TV company (either one will do) can get people so full of bile.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Don't like Sky (the company) so would not want to directly give them money.

There are an awful lot of people that think the same, I would rather not watch tv than give Murdock a penny