Another Take on Lost Channels

[Tailor]

Originally Posted by Nugget

Well, taking this into account, surely you're paying twice for the roads then, seeing as Council Tax goes towards the roads as well

I'm not going to reply to that on the grounds that it would be sooooo far off-topic I'd expect to get a lifetime ban

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Tailor

I'm not going to reply to that on the grounds that it would be sooooo far off-topic I'd expect to get a lifetime ban

I wouldn't worry about it - I never have

Originally Posted by Nugget

I wouldn't worry about it - I never have

For some people, the punishment is a lifetime membership - you can never leave.

Mwuhahahahahahahaaaaaah

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Chris T

For some people, the punishment is a lifetime membership - you can never leave.

Mwuhahahahahahahaaaaaah

Which is weird, 'cos we all know that you lot suffer more than I do

[Action Jackson]

Originally Posted by Nugget

Well, taking this into account, surely you're paying twice for the roads then, seeing as Council Tax goes towards the roads as well

Does anyone really know what the council tax actually pays for?


According to the council websites it gets used to fund community services like libraries, but there hasn't been a book worth stealing in my local library for ages now.

[richfromhudds]

Hi..
not too sure if you are intrested, but i did as the TV licence Authority about paying for licence after the DTTV switch over

My question was..

Title: Mr
Surname: Henshall
Telephone:
Email:
Licence no:

Prefered contact method: Email

Subject: General Enquiry
Message:
The Transmitter i am receiving from Emley Moor, the analogue TX equipment will but turned off around 2010 to 2012.

If i have no digital receiver anywhere in my home, and just use my analogue TV (which can no longer receive any TV pictures at that time), as a monitor for my DVD player. Would I still have to get a TV licence?
Reference number: EM0002

Their answer is

TV LICENSING
BRISTOL
BS98 1TL

Tel: 0870 243 0229
Fax: 0870 240 1187
E-Mail: tvlcsc@capita.co.uk
Our Ref: TVL1506501

29/01/2007

Dear Henshall

Thank you for contacting us.

A television licence is legal permission to install and use television equipment to receive or record television broadcast signals. It is required, by law, if you use equipment to receive or record BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV, Channel 4, Five, satellite, or cable programs. It does not make any difference to how many channels you receive.

When the analogue broadcast service is switch off, and you have not installed and are not using a digitial receiver, and you will not be able to receive television broadcast service, you will not longer require a television licence.

I hope my reply is useful.

Yours sincerely

Mr W Kimball
TV Licensing

i hope that can help with any licence questions .. However they did take a week to answer as they did not know how to answer my question at first thats what the lady said, when i called them.

[york]

I am a long time disgruntled payer of the unfair, biased and quite frankly appaulling attitude of the BBC and thier 'licence'.

You know YOU have to prove to THEM that your not using your TV to recieve broadcasted channels?
If you murder someone THEY have to prove that YOU committed the murder.

You HAVE to let them into your own home so they can see for themselves that you are not using a TV to recieve broadcasted channels.

If you refuse they call the police who then MAKE you let them into your home to prove that you are not using a TV to recieve broadcasted channels.

This attitude they have is appauling, i remember 3 years ago seeing an advert on the side of a bus in Doncaster, it said '3 people living on burton road do not own a TV licence'.

And Chris T, i 'dont use' your car, should i have to pay for it?

The BBC do not provide ANY content that interests me, NONE! You say they have set the standard? reeeallly? thats because they were the only ones setting any standard when the draconian licence fee was introduced.

In a recent BBC poll (yes thats right a poll by the BBC) to find out how many licence fee payers would continue to pay for the licence if it was based upon a subscription, the result was 65% would still pay the fee, that 35% of almost this entire country that do not want the BBC service.

The BBC is on borrowed time, my generation have grown up with the era of commercial TV, now ondemand is getting more popular, websites like youtube.com and other similiar providers are becoming more popular through convenience and instant choice, soon my generation will be in charge of things at the top and the BBC will find themselves without any support due to thier mightier than thou attitude.

I will be throwing a party on that day in support of choice and freedom.

If the BBC believe they are providing a world class service then they should put it to the test and become a subscription based service and if they were responcible with the money they recieve they would not be spending millions of pounds on changing thier logo (if i remember rightly they changed thier black BBC logo to a coloured BBC logo with a line underneath, then they changed it back) or spending millions of pounds paying for taxi's for thier staff.

Oh and this dribble about how TV would be so much worse without the BBC ... we will never know, cos the BBC were the only service available and quite frankly if everyone was on an level playing field, us the customer would be able to CHOOSE the best of the TV services available, like Sky or Virgin who both provide services that I want, not what im MADE to have or pay for.

[Tod]

I think the BBC are fantastic, I listen to their radio stations, use BBCi, watch their TV stations, and think it is wonderful they have no adverts.
It will be a sad day if it was any other way.

[york]

Originally Posted by Tod

I think the BBC are fantastic, I listen to their radio stations, use BBCi, watch their TV stations, and think it is wonderful they have no adverts.
It will be a sad day if it was any other way.

I think thats great but again why should i have to pay for your entertainment?

[leics poshie]

Originally Posted by Tod

I think the BBC are fantastic, I listen to their radio stations, use BBCi, watch their TV stations, and think it is wonderful they have no adverts.
It will be a sad day if it was any other way.

Agreed and some of the drama they show are 100 times better than anything Sky could produce

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by york

You know YOU have to prove to THEM that your not using your TV to recieve broadcasted channels?
If you murder someone THEY have to prove that YOU committed the murder.

Probably because murder's a criminal offence which you want to be found innocent of, whereas not having (or requiring) a TV licence would actually save you money, so why shouldn't you provide the evidence?

You HAVE to let them into your own home so they can see for themselves that you are not using a TV to recieve broadcasted channels.

You don't have to let anybody into your house. Having said that, if you have a licence, why would it be a problem? Surely it would only be an issue if you didn't have a licence but were watching TV, which would mean you were breaking the law...

This attitude they have is appauling, i remember 3 years ago seeing an advert on the side of a bus in Doncaster, it said '3 people living on burton road do not own a TV licence'.

And Chris T, i 'dont use' your car, should i have to pay for it?

They do / did the same thing with road tax, but no-one complained. For that matter, certain tabloid newspapers do the same with peadophiles, but no-one complains. What's the difference?

The BBC do not provide ANY content that interests me, NONE! You say they have set the standard? reeeallly? thats because they were the only ones setting any standard when the draconian licence fee was introduced.

As is said every bloomin' time this comes up, I refuse to believe that you don't use any BBC service. You might not watch the channels, but do you listen to the radio? Use the internet (clicked on any of the hunderdes of links to the BBC on here?). Bought any DVDs that may have been produced or distributed by the BBC? How about bought the Live Lounge album that Radio 1 released?

In a recent BBC poll (yes thats right a poll by the BBC) to find out how many licence fee payers would continue to pay for the licence if it was based upon a subscription, the result was 65% would still pay the fee, that 35% of almost this entire country that do not want the BBC service.

So two thirds of those surveyed were happy to continue to pay a fee for the BBC in some shape or form? That's pretty good - I wish everything that I did had a 66% chance of success

The BBC is on borrowed time, my generation have grown up with the era of commercial TV, now ondemand is getting more popular, websites like youtube.com and other similiar providers are becoming more popular through convenience and instant choice, soon my generation will be in charge of things at the top and the BBC will find themselves without any support due to thier mightier than thou attitude.

I will be throwing a party on that day in support of choice and freedom.

What toot! I'd be interested to know how old you are - I'm fairly sure that we're of the same generation, and I have no inclination to drop my support for the world-class services that the BBC provide. Oh, and I don't believe for a moment that the BBC have a 'mightier than thou' attitude - as Chris said earlier, they aren't actually responsible for setting the licence fee anyway. They know that they have to maintain a certain level of output, or the government would be in a position where the charter wouldn't be renewed anyway...

If the BBC believe they are providing a world class service then they should put it to the test and become a subscription based service and if they were responcible with the money they recieve they would not be spending millions of pounds on changing thier logo (if i remember rightly they changed thier black BBC logo to a coloured BBC logo with a line underneath, then they changed it back) or spending millions of pounds paying for taxi's for thier staff.

Oh and this dribble about how TV would be so much worse without the BBC ... we will never know, cos the BBC were the only service available and quite frankly if everyone was on an level playing field, us the customer would be able to CHOOSE the best of the TV services available, like Sky or Virgin who both provide services that I want, not what im MADE to have or pay for.

Here, I have to say that I agree with you - it is all about choice. If you don't like paying the licence fee, you have the choice not to pay it - simply get rid of your TV (and anything else that may receive the signal), and sit back and enjoy your moral victory. Get yourself a copy of the Mail while you're at it - they do a good line in unresearched piffle as well

[Taffer]

We, the British public, may be paying over the odds for BBC via the license fee, but isn't thet the British way? Look around and you will find CDs, DVDs, PCs and equipment, consoles, etc., etc., etc. are always more expensive than in America. So how much extra are we paying for movies and American TV content via Sky and Virgin Media than the Americans pay for the same items via their equivalent feeds?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Taffer

We, the British public, may be paying over the odds for BBC via the license fee, but isn't thet the British way? Look around and you will find CDs, DVDs, PCs and equipment, consoles, etc., etc., etc. are always more expensive than in America. So how much extra are we paying for movies and American TV content via Sky and Virgin Media than the Americans pay for the same items via their equivalent feeds?

Yeah, but don't forget that, of the 10 - 20 decent American shows that we get over here, the Americans must have at least 300 crap ones

[rogerdraig]

lol you have a load of what seems like die hard anti sky people ( yep i know some of you arnt but it seems that way on here the last few days ) who want to see sky knocked down a peg or two as they don't like a dominant capitalist running their media then this lot who want to see an end to a independent media who are not dependent on and therefore easily influenced by big business


me i just want the channels i like watching ( oh and ready to fight any one who endangers Dr Who )

[themelon]

If it wasnt for the BBC TV in this country would be absolutely terrible. ITV and BBC are the only providers capable of producing reasonable content. Sky just import crap, will not be missed at all.