Muslims to march in London

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Locky

the bnp dont need stopping they need VOTES they are trying to keep england ENGLISH and free from all this well u know what.. andthye dont harrass and they dont cause havoc do they, nope.

Nooo, of course the BNP don't cause havoc.. The members do (and have the rap sheets to prove it).

So, yes. The BNP does need to be stopped. As do any other Nazi parties.

[SMG]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

Oh for goodness sake!

Grateful for our generosity? The vast majority of immigrants work very hard and pay their taxes. They follow the rules and have the right to live here. They are not "guests sleeping in the spare bedroom", they are "tenants paying the rent".

Yes. Grateful. After all, don't the majority of immigrants come here for a better life. Benefits, health care, housing, freedom etc. They leave their 3rd world countries & all their belongings, including the family moped & AK47, starvation, deprivation, poverty. Yes, grateful, because if they arnt, then they are ungrateful.

[punky]

Can we please remember not to stereotype people and tar them all with the same brush. Thank you.

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by Locky

the bnp dont need stopping they need VOTES they are trying to keep england ENGLISH and free from all this well u know what.. andthye dont harrass and they dont cause havoc do they, nope.

Once a Skinhead....Always a skinhead.


But, this is what im talking about from all your replies, there is one thing missing, information about immigrants and asylum seekers.


The BNP spout out that they are here to steal jobs. Again ill re-iterate

1. Asylum Seekers can NOT work for a specified time, it is the law, so they have no choice but to sign on and get dole money. But the BNP dont want you to know that, they want you to think that they have some grand scheme of taking all our monies and ship it off.

At the end of the day, no matter who signs on, the monies is theirs, they can send to wherever they like. So what if they send money to relatives back home for them to survive.


2. Immigrants come and work, they are NOT stealing the jobs, remember one important piece of info here, the Employers pick their employees, so why do the immigrants get picked first to do specialised jobs?

They are hard working, they have experience, they have qualifications and now compare that to most of the people in this country who were born here, most of the younger generation are not hard working, do not have experience and maybe have some qualifications. But most of all they are lazy, they prefer to be handed money for nothing.

As an employeer, I know who I would choose first to work for me.


3. Then you have the people who start new businesses, and being successful at it, again because of hard work and dedication something very missing from most of the people out there.

BNP dont want you to know that, they spout out how they come over and make businesses with YOUR money (which it isnt really) and they send back home. I.e. supposedly coming over to steal every penny, which again is a lie.


At the end of the day the BNP and its members, are racist, egotistical, confrontational, disruptive etc.

Want to keep England ENGLISH you say, just remember England doesnt belong to the people and it never has, you are priveledged to be there in your country. You abide by the rules set before you.

And thats why the BNP is bad for anyone. They dont think this. And their racist ways do and always will promote secterianism.

In other words the BNP and Neo-Nazi groups are just as bad as the terrorists.

And if you think they are good for your country, then shame on you, your a disgrace. And you wonder why extremist middle eastern groups like to bomb and fly into buildings.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

What are you on about? I have already admitted I misunderstood your statement about the marchers (poor syntax, the lateness of the hour etc....) but you are now completely backpedalling from your statement about all of us being responsible for slavery etc. You said in #352: Now you are trying to wriggle out of that statement.....

Perhaps because you didnt READ what was being said, read it again.

[SMG]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Once a Skinhead....Always a skinhead.


But, this is what im talking about from all your replies, there is one thing missing, information about immigrants and asylum seekers.


The BNP spout out that they are here to steal jobs. Again ill re-iterate

1. Asylum Seekers can NOT work for a specified time, it is the law, so they have no choice but to sign on and get dole money. But the BNP dont want you to know that, they want you to think that they have some grand scheme of taking all our monies and ship it off.

At the end of the day, no matter who signs on, the monies is theirs, they can send to wherever they like. So what if they send money to relatives back home for them to survive.


2. Immigrants come and work, they are NOT stealing the jobs, remember one important piece of info here, the Employers pick their employees, so why do the immigrants get picked first to do specialised jobs?

They are hard working, they have experience, they have qualifications and now compare that to most of the people in this country who were born here, most of the younger generation are not hard working, do not have experience and maybe have some qualifications. But most of all they are lazy, they prefer to be handed money for nothing.

As an employeer, I know who I would choose first to work for me.


3. Then you have the people who start new businesses, and being successful at it, again because of hard work and dedication something very missing from most of the people out there.

BNP dont want you to know that, they spout out how they come over and make businesses with YOUR money (which it isnt really) and they send back home. I.e. supposedly coming over to steal every penny, which again is a lie.


At the end of the day the BNP and its members, are racist, egotistical, confrontational, disruptive etc.

Want to keep England ENGLISH you say, just remember England doesnt belong to the people and it never has, you are priveledged to be there in your country. You abide by the rules set before you.

And thats why the BNP is bad for anyone. They dont think this. And their racist ways do and always will promote secterianism.

In other words the BNP and Neo-Nazi groups are just as bad as the terrorists.

And if you think they are good for your country, then shame on you, your a disgrace. And you wonder why extremist middle eastern groups like to bomb and fly into buildings.

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Perhaps because you didnt READ what was being said, read it again.

Absolute rubbish.

[Locky]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Nooo, of course the BNP don't cause havoc.. The members do (and have the rap sheets to prove it).

So, yes. The BNP does need to be stopped. As do any other Nazi parties.

yes maybe they do, what about cameron the pothead, dont forget that..

Originally Posted by Locky

yes maybe they do, what about cameron the pothead, dont forget that..

Smoking drugs when he was at college is hardly the same

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Originally Posted by SMG

Absolute rubbish.

Why? The facts aboyt Asylum seekers/immigrants are true

[DABhand]

Originally Posted by SMG

Absolute rubbish.

Show me other wise


Show me that Asylum Seekers cant work for a certain amount of time, if I remember well it was 3-5 years.

Show me proof that Employers arent employing "white" people cause the immigrants/overseas persons are less qualified and desirable to employ.

Show me proof of non "white" new businesses that dont last long and are not successful compared to a "white" new business.


You dont come in and say "absolute rubbish" without proof.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by DABhand

Once a Skinhead....Always a skinhead.


But, this is what im talking about from all your replies, there is one thing missing, information about immigrants and asylum seekers.


The BNP spout out that they are here to steal jobs. Again ill re-iterate

1. Asylum Seekers can NOT work for a specified time, it is the law, so they have no choice but to sign on and get dole money. But the BNP dont want you to know that, they want you to think that they have some grand scheme of taking all our monies and ship it off.

At the end of the day, no matter who signs on, the monies is theirs, they can send to wherever they like. So what if they send money to relatives back home for them to survive.


2. Immigrants come and work, they are NOT stealing the jobs, remember one important piece of info here, the Employers pick their employees, so why do the immigrants get picked first to do specialised jobs?

They are hard working, they have experience, they have qualifications and now compare that to most of the people in this country who were born here, most of the younger generation are not hard working, do not have experience and maybe have some qualifications. But most of all they are lazy, they prefer to be handed money for nothing.

As an employeer, I know who I would choose first to work for me.


3. Then you have the people who start new businesses, and being successful at it, again because of hard work and dedication something very missing from most of the people out there.

BNP dont want you to know that, they spout out how they come over and make businesses with YOUR money (which it isnt really) and they send back home. I.e. supposedly coming over to steal every penny, which again is a lie.


At the end of the day the BNP and its members, are racist, egotistical, confrontational, disruptive etc.

Want to keep England ENGLISH you say, just remember England doesnt belong to the people and it never has, you are priveledged to be there in your country. You abide by the rules set before you.

And thats why the BNP is bad for anyone. They dont think this. And their racist ways do and always will promote secterianism.

In other words the BNP and Neo-Nazi groups are just as bad as the terrorists.

And if you think they are good for your country, then shame on you, your a disgrace. And you wonder why extremist middle eastern groups like to bomb and fly into buildings.

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Perhaps because you didnt READ what was being said, read it again.

Well said mate but.....

You're wasting your time mate, there are some people on here that wont change their racist, stereotypical,anti immigrant anti muslim views. Immigrants and muslims seem to be the favoured target on here for everything thats wrong in the UK (ie from employment to crime), and often the 2 become morphed into 1. You will learn in time.

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Well said mate but.....

You're wasting your time mate, there are some people on here that wont change their racist, stereotypical,anti immigrant anti muslim views. Immigrants and muslims seem to be the favoured target on here for everything thats wrong in the UK (ie from employment to crime), and often the 2 become morphed into 1. You will learn in time.

I think your right, it seems to be happening more and more on here

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Locky

wrong ! the vast majority do NOT work hard they leech, look at all this gun crime in manchester and london, who exactly is commiting them ? i dont even need to say u alredy know

No m8. I strongly suspect that the vast majority do work hard and only a tiny minority are the 'bad apples'. I don't think you should tar them all with the same brush.....

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

You're wasting your time mate, there are some people on here that wont change their racist, stereotypical,anti immigrant anti muslim views. Immigrants and muslims seem to be the favoured target on here for everything thats wrong in the UK (ie from employment to crime), and often the 2 become morphed into 1. You will learn in time.

Oh please don't give me that bleeding heart rubbish. Muslims wouldn't be being discussed here if they didn't have a sub-section of their population who want to kill us.....and another section of their population who don't disagree with that endevour.....

[Womble]

Yes, the BNP are bad, no argument. It could also be said its because of Nazis there are immigrants here in any kind of numbers due to the death rate of the British and "White" europeans during the 1st and 2nd W-Wars.
What the liberals fail to see is the growing resentment from the average man to immigation in general. There is way to many, and they are not intergrating into our society, why would they? there is enough of say the Polish, that they can exist in enclaves.
If as I fear, Labour and the Liberals do not deal with the percieved problem, more and more people will vote BNP.
So before this happens, teh mainstream parties need to get their act together.
IE: Shut our borders for say 3 years. Deal with the backlog of applications. deport those that fail.. (immediatly, there should not be leave to appeal)
Then and only then, open our borders again, but this time control them properly, we are after al a freakin island!!!

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Oh please don't give me that bleeding heart rubbish. Muslims wouldn't be being discussed here if they didn't have a sub-section of their population who want to kill us.....and another section of their population who don't disagree with that endevour.....

Yaaaaaaawnnnnnn.....

Heard this same thing spouted over and over mate. maybe I should cast all non muslim members of the cable forum racist bigots, but only because some of them have expressesd BNP/racist views on here.

Think is you want a reasonable open debate on here, you call for integration, but most of you (in threads discussing immigration/muslims) have already made your mind up about what we're like. Its not bleeding heart rubbish mate, its fact.

[Locky]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Yaaaaaaawnnnnnn.....

Heard this same thing spouted over and over mate. maybe I should cast all non muslim members of the cable forum racist bigots, but only because some of them have expressesd BNP/racist views on here.

Think is you want a reasonable open debate on here, you call for integration, but most of you (in threads discussing immigration/muslims) have already made your mind up about what we're like. Its not bleeding heart rubbish mate, its fact.

we do not want integration ? who was the british empire formed by ? certainly not muslims, what right do they have here ? maybe if they didnt have the vast majority of them trying to blow us up or leech off of ENGLAND, if things r so bad in own country pakistan india or w.e why not make them better instead of spoiling OUR country ? i am not a "racist bigot" i can just honestly say, not welcome here, isnt just me that thinks so. (the others dnt want to say anything but tht is EXACTLY what they are thinking)

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Locky

we do not want integration ? who was the british empire formed by ? certainly not muslims, what right do they have here ? maybe if they didnt have the vast majority of them trying to blow us up or leech off of ENGLAND, if things r so bad in own country pakistan india or w.e why not make them better instead of spoiling OUR country ? i am not a "racist bigot" i can just honestly say, not welcome here, isnt just me that thinks so. (the others dnt want to say anything but tht is EXACTLY what they are thinking)

Vast majority trying to blow us up? Exaclty what percentage are trying?
What about muslims who were born here?
What about muslims who are white and converted?
Should they all be deported to Pakistan?

How about we deport the racist bigots who are spoiling our country?