SKY VS Virgin Media

[punky]

If I could get Sky, I would. I had Sky analogue, and when we tried to upgrade the Sly installer refused for some reason.

When I had Sky analogue, signal wasn't brilliant unless the weather was. Is Sky digital just as bad?

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by Gavin

If I could get Sky, I would. I had Sky analogue, and when we tried to upgrade the Sly installer refused for some reason.

When I had Sky analogue, signal wasn't brilliant unless the weather was. Is Sky digital just as bad?

In very windy weather like a few weeks ago, or in snow it does affect it occasionally.

I'm with Sky now, but hate Murdoch and all he stands for, so if I had a choice I'd go with Virgin*. I like Richard Branson.

*Only if we could have the TV Drive though. I think losing Sky+ with no like for like replacement would be good grounds for divorce as far as hubby is concerned...

[Pia]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I am quite capable of putting myself in the position that is posed in the poll.

Many surveys ask you questions about hypothetical situations - I see this no differently. If I was in the position of having Ntl and being happy, then Sky pulled their channels I'd switch. No different to if I was currently was in the position.

I think i voted when i shouldn't have too.... i already have sky digital for my telly, and ntl for my phone and BB, but i voted to stay

If i was on ntl telly i wouldn't switch to sky just for the sky channels, any decent shows they might have are usually bought by channel 4 or someone anyway.

[ntl.wotcha]

Actually, your poll is missing an option.

3. Cancel sub and revert to Freeview.

Which is what I would do as I do not watch a great lot of stuff except sky1. and I'm damned if I'll pay anything to Murdoch if he uses such low tactics.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Downloads

the figures just won't show a true representation of the people who will be leaving

You're never going to get that sort of info from a poll on here - people that come here have either been ****ed off by Ntl or love them (to the point they spend their time posting "1 day till they become Virgin - ohh I'm going to wet myself I'm so excited." )

If my voting in the poll offends you that much ask a mod to remove it. It's only an internet discussion after all.

As for a surveys - I've been asked about brands changing their image or altering themselves in some way when I never buy the product - that's the idea of surveys/polls - to get peoples opinions.

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Originally Posted by Pia

I think i voted when i shouldn't have too....

Shouldn't worry about it P, mass hysteria round here at the moment. :/

If you can't stand some people being generally enthusiastic about the changes which will be happening tomorrow Shaun - then perhaps it isn't a wise idea to come into these threads and view them - I'd also appreciate it if you wouldn't use foul language regardless if the swear filter kicks in. Thank you.

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by Shaun

You're never going to get that sort of info from a poll on here - people that come here have either been ****ed off by Ntl or love them (to the point they spend their time posting "1 day till they become Virgin - ohh I'm going to wet myself I'm so excited." )

If my voting in the poll offends you that much ask a mod to remove it. It's only an internet discussion after all.

As for a surveys - I've been asked about brands changing their image or altering themselves in some way when I never buy the product - that's the idea of surveys/polls - to get peoples opinions.

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Shouldn't worry about it P, mass hysteria round here at the moment. :/

Your voting in the poll doesn't offend me and i think you saying that is a bit childish, i was only stating that my own personal opinion is people who are with Sky and not NTL, who vote, distort the poll.

I'm not telling anyone they can't vote.

As for getting excited by it, those who want to get excited by it are more than welcome, i don't see why you have to insult them.

I'm personally interested by all progressions in technology, services, gaming and anything of the such, and i don't think it's sad to be interested.

As a disclaimer, i did say after saying "a representitive poll" that a small number can't be seen as representitive. Stats are my living so don't try to teach me how to suck eggs.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Mick

If you can't stand some people being generally enthusiastic about the changes which will be happening tomorrow Shaun - then perhaps it isn't a wise idea to come into these threads and view them

I can cope with people being enthusiastic and I am genuinely interested in the outcome of this re-brand - but it's rather hard to keep up with the thread when there is a core group of people that post the same thing every day. That's not excitement that's just plain sillyness and detracts from what other posters are trying to say. It's not great to have to wade through the rubbish to get to the interesting posts.

Perhaps your right, maybe it's more hard work than it's worth.

[awibble]

If sky pulled their channels, would virgin pull the uk-TV channels from sky? i know some people that only get sky for the UKTV channels

[brundles]

Originally Posted by awibble

If sky pulled their channels, would virgin pull the uk-TV channels from sky? i know some people that only get sky for the UKTV channels

Given they've apparently just had that revenue stream stripped down by 75% probably.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Downloads

Your voting in the poll doesn't offend me and i think you saying that is a bit childish, i was only stating that my own personal opinion is people who are with Sky and not NTL, who vote, distort the poll.

Well seeing as the poll doesn't actually have a question to it we'll never know what the point of it was. Personally with a statement like "SKY VS Virgin Media" I was assuming* it was a light hearted look at what people would do if they were in the position of having Ntl and then having to decide "SKY VS Virgin Media" to keep the channels they want.

Perhaps I should have known it was a serious poll for only those that currently have Ntl - how I should have known this is beyond me at the moment but I'm sure my feeble brain will catch on at some point.

I'm not telling anyone they can't vote.

No you're just saying you think they shouldn't - and with the figures in the results, does it matter?

As for getting excited by it, those who want to get excited by it are more than welcome, i don't see why you have to insult them.

Again, excitement is one thing, but post the same thing day after day makes it really hard to get to the point of the non-repetitive posts.

I'm personally interested by all progressions in technology, services, gaming and anything of the such, and i don't think it's sad to be interested.

Snap - do you honestly think I'm here to berate anyone - again some posters just make it hard to wade through

As a disclaimer, i did say after saying "a representative poll" that a small number can't be seen as representative. Stats are my living so don't try to teach me how to suck eggs.

No matter how many you get to vote in this poll you'll never get a representative result - like I said up there:

"You're never going to get that sort of info from a poll on here - people that come here have either been annoyed by Ntl or love them"

Suck eggs - no, have a reasoned debate - well I try to.

[Media Boy UK]

Sky gets better deal for Flextech channels



Info from The Airwaves

On the day Virgin Media launches it has emerged that Sky has hammered down the amount it pays for the Flextech channels as relations between the two continue to deteriorate.

It is understood that Flextech will only get around 10p/Sky subscriber under the new deal instead of the current 40p/subscriber resulting in Flextech loosing more than £25 million per year in revenue.

According to broadcastnow.co.uk, Sky said it was only prepared to pay for Living TV and Flexztech is understood to be considering its options which could include Trouble and Bravo being rolled into its free-to-air FTN channel on satellite but is unlikely to merge Challenge due to the money Flextech gets from interactive streams.

Negotiations between the two continue over the basic Sky channels with Sky threatining to pull its channels off cable if a deal cannot be agreed. However, Virgin has said that it wants a better deal for the premium Sky channels Sky Sports and Sky Movies saying that it overcharges customers for these services. Cable would manage without Sky Movies due to it offering hundereds of films on-demand but Sky Sports is a different proposition.

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by TV Boy

Sky gets better deal for Flextech channels



Info from The Airwaves

On the day Virgin Media launches it has emerged that Sky has hammered down the amount it pays for the Flextech channels as relations between the two continue to deteriorate.

It is understood that Flextech will only get around 10p/Sky subscriber under the new deal instead of the current 40p/subscriber resulting in Flextech loosing more than £25 million per year in revenue.

According to broadcastnow.co.uk, Sky said it was only prepared to pay for Living TV and Flexztech is understood to be considering its options which could include Trouble and Bravo being rolled into its free-to-air FTN channel on satellite but is unlikely to merge Challenge due to the money Flextech gets from interactive streams.

Negotiations between the two continue over the basic Sky channels with Sky threatining to pull its channels off cable if a deal cannot be agreed. However, Virgin has said that it wants a better deal for the premium Sky channels Sky Sports and Sky Movies saying that it overcharges customers for these services. Cable would manage without Sky Movies due to it offering hundereds of films on-demand but Sky Sports is a different proposition.

I wonder if one would guess that the deal for Sky's channels is part of the discussions and it's likely that they are staying? A lot of assumptions i know!

[Kellargh]

Hmm I don't even see why a name change would tickle the public mind into thinking of moving or not anyway...in a lot of cases all I've heard is 'who cares?'. (Apart from everyone here, obviously!)

I would like to have Virgin Media, but until that is actually -possible- if ever in my area, then I will always be with Sky.

[Rik]

NTL Media without a doubt

Rock Steady 10MB and a GREAT VOD TV service

Im a very happy chap!
All I would like now is 20MEG