AMD hit 3 gig SKT F / L1 cpu on sale

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

well my machine chugs away quite happy. Its all about spreading the work onto different drives as the read write problem with single disks is very valid

But sometimes its difficult to spread the load especially if the rar files and par files are on the same array or disk... it would be kinda a waste of time to moving the files to separate disks before assigning work on them (in the long run this is the more effecient method though)

Yup and the average joe bloggs on the street doesnt have the same setup as we do so he or she will most probably run a couple of processes on the same disk inadvertently.

if the rar files are on the same disk simply move them. Ive just run a test I had 2 dvd archives on one drive I moved one to desktop ( a different physical drive) and run quickpar both archives had broken rars and I run repair on the 2 with no impact on either. Then I run IE off the c: obviously where the desktop is and the impact was huge ( same disk) one archive was more broken than the other so as one was still repairing I extracted the fixed one to yet another hard drive again with no impact. So if you have the drives you can perform the tasks

Who said anything about using this for average Joe in the street??? how many average Joes buy and use well performance machines? not many

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ok to further the test I just run 2 x quickpar running rar repair and 1 instance of winrar extracting a large archive all on different disks all running as fast as if alone and running cpu resources at 95% again the only thing that lagged the system is running a second app off one of the disks so in theory with 4 cores and enough drives I could run 6 instances 3 of each on 4 core without impact so I think there you go

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Who said anything about using this for average Joe in the street??? how many average Joes buy and use well performance machines? not many

Yeh but so called performance machine will be an average users machine in a couple of years time and hence would joe bloggs be able to use a quad core efficiently or maybe would it be more beneficial for him to have a dual core with twice the cpu frequency - this is really my point and moreover I personally would like to see increases in cpu frequency rather than releases of 4 cores and 8 cores which would be more suited to server applications.

Soz its gone a bit off topic

No because as well you know high frequency no longer means faster cpus. Look at the Conroes? look at the Prescott P4 cpus where they went for MHZ and all they achieved was a radiator? Moores law is no longer valid imo rules have changed slimmer processes less voltage and more efficient cpus are the way further high mhz just means to much heat to much power and as proven with the Prescott not the best cpu

As you said in a couple of years but your missing the fact that in a coupel of years multithreaded tunes apps will be everywhere meaning Joe public will get the benefits of multi core processing

About 18 months ago I had this discussion with a fellow clanner who was all FX 57 as the best cpu and I championed the Dual core as the next gaming cpu low and behold I was proven right when good old amd released the fx60 as its gamers choice. I strongly feel ill be proven right again and it wont be long before I am

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

No because as well you know high frequency no longer means faster cpus. Look at the Conroes? look at the Prescott P4 cpus where they went for MHZ and all they achieved was a radiator? Moores law is no longer valid imo rules have changed slimmer processes less voltage and more efficient cpus are the way further high mhz just means to much heat to much power and as proven with the Prescott not the best cpu

As you said in a couple of years but yoru missing the fact that in a coupel of years multithreaded tunes apps will be everywhere meaning Joe public will get the benefits of multi core processing

Good answer - hope we get upgrades to the rest of the architecture to keep up with the pace.

2 years is a bloody long time in computing.AMD with have newer cpus and should compete with Intel again. Intel will most likely have something to answer this. AMD/ATI phaze project will be out there trying something new its all good fun

[etccarmageddon]

is this new CPU (running on its own) better than an intel E6700 dual core (2.67) as I'm about to have an intel pc built - the E6700 is costing around £290 excluding vat so it is roughly the same price as this new AMD chip but has a lower clock speed.

I would stick to your guns the AMD is new technology and the boards are expensive. The Conroe will be a faster cpu
If AMD competed with Intels cpus at the moment id jump ship like a shot but they cant however this AMD cpu will be unlocked as its an FX so overclockers will get a bargain with this

[etccarmageddon]

cheers

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http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/11/30..._uk/page5.html

very good report. It does show to me that there isnt a huge amount of difference the Intel is better but they have not run a single cpu test to see actually how good it is as a single cpu, The main problem is what I mentioned before and the 90mn process means its a power hungry cpu and this also means heat for me this is the let down of this cpu

[etccarmageddon]

just ordered my E6700 - it'll be interesting to see how faster it is compared to my athlon 3400 running at 2.4.

massively

[handyman]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

massively

You'd be the chap to know as well...

My 805D set-up is working like a charm. Interesting though it runs better under Vista and did not need any drivers. XP seems proper flakey in comparision.

n1 glad your happy with it

[keithwalton]

Zing small problem in your plan of it being a cheap! you cant buy just one of the cpu's you MUST buy them as a pair. Amd only sells them as a quad (2x dual core) bundle for not much more than an Fx cpu.

One of the american sites decided to split the bundles recently only for amd to turn round and say you do that, and you kiss goodbye to your warrenty from us.


Back to the technology tho, the boards are very expensive, you'll need a 700W+ psu as the system really does eat power like there is no tomorrow, you'll need at least 4 sticks of matched ram and you have to hope that your cpu works with its own ram and not the ram from the other cpu else performance falls through the floor.

And yes i've been championing vista for a while now of how much better it is at handling a dual core system than xp is.

Edit - Scan should not be selling these as single chips, they'll soon be saying hello to mr amd soon for doing so