Sneeky MS

[Gareth]

For what it's worth, the guy heading up Microsoft's AV department is the same guy who was responsible for creating the Avert Labs, which is what McAfee use... only his budget is about 5 times what he had available to him back then.

[Nikesh]

Originally Posted by Shaun

they seem to follow every other instruction in a popup

LOL

Originally Posted by MadGamer

Windows Defender aint an Operating System

Oh dear do you honestly think that is what i was talking about.
I took you for having more common sense than that.

I was talking about Micro$oft.

[MadGamer]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Oh dear do you honestly think that is what i was talking about.
I took you for having more common sense than that.

I was talking about Micro$oft.

I know you were, but from what you put, i thought you were being serious.

Originally Posted by [LEFT

MadGamer[/LEFT];34180592]I know you were, but from what you put, i thought you were being serious.

I was being serious about Micro$oft. Lets face it how many years have they been trying to fix the bugs in XP and they still have not done it. I tried Vista the other day what a load of plop that was. Half my stuff is working but with BETA drivers . It gets released next month you think they would have it ready by now, But hey let the users bug check it

Good ole Micro$oft

[MadGamer]

Originally Posted by Bill C

I was being serious about Micro$oft. Lets face it how many years have they been trying to fix the bugs in XP and they still have not done it. I tried Vista the other day what a load of plop that was. Half my stuff is working but with BETA drivers . It gets released next month you think they would have it ready by now, But hey let the users bug check it

Good ole Micro$oft

Ill be using XP for another year or so before i even think about Vista and a new rig.

[Stuart]

In fairness to Microsoft, if the manufacturers of devices haven't written drivers, it's not their fault. Vista entered testing a long time ago. They've had time to write drivers. Bear in mind that Microsoft stopped writing drivers for other manufacturer's devices in 1992 or 1993.

As for the bug testing, a modern OS is so complicated that it is not possible to say it is *ever* bug free. This applies to Linux, Unix and Mac OSX as well.

Microsoft conduct the largest beta tests in the industry (more testers). Unfortunately, the bugs that get through are more newsworthy than the ones they fix.

I have come to the conclusion a long time ago that there is no such thing as bug free software WHOEVER is the originator of the software.

If Microsoft didn't exist and the standard OS was called summat else you lot would b*tch about that and the multi millionaire who happened to own/produce it would get derogatory remarks of a similar nature to those applied to BG because it just isn't possible to get anything completely trouble free but everyone thinks that it should be so.

[Duke]

I use Microsoft Windows Defender and have found it quite effective. Been using it over a year now and since that time never had a spyware problem.
I remember having to run Ad-Aware and Spybot everyday just to make sure I didn't pick up any crap off the internet, but with that real-time protection Windows Defender provides I never had to run a scan.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by Duke

I use Microsoft Windows Defender and have found it quite effective. Been using it over a year now and since that time never had a spyware problem.
I remember having to run Ad-Aware and Spybot everyday just to make sure I didn't pick up any crap off the internet, but with that real-time protection Windows Defender provides I never had to run a scan.

I have Windows Defender run an automatic quick scan once a day.

[poolking]

Originally Posted by MadGamer

Windows Defender aint an Operating System

He didn't say it was an operating system, read the first word of his post