NTL v Sky v Talktalk - Page 3

Central · 10-12-2006, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Bill C

you are implying by this statement that i did.

The point i am getting at is that if you go beyond 2.4 or so Km's your speed will drop very fast indeed. So how far are you from the exchange ?

Straight line distance 261 metres.

Line distance is about 1.4km.

But I could live next door to a exchange yet my line could take a long route and end up be 2km in distance.

Straight line makes no difference at all

10-12-2006, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Be*

Straight line distance 261 metres.

Line distance is about 1.4km.

But I could live next door to a exchange yet my line could take a long route and end up be 2km in distance.

Straight line makes no difference at all

Correct.

And now i see why you get good speeds. I am 1.5 km from the exchange but my cable length is 2.9 kms.

However i am 8 km from the cable exchange and when the 20 meg trial was on i got 19 meg

.

Different technology which will ensure cable will beat ADSL hands down until BT dump the speaker wire connection.

Cables weak link is the UBR which NTL need to be continually upgrading as more customers come on line.

Central · 10-12-2006, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Bill C

Correct.

And now i see why you get good speeds. I am 1.5 km from the exchange but my cable length is 2.9 kms.

However i am 8 km from the cable exchange and when the 20 meg trial was on i got 19 meg

.

Different technology which ensure cable will beat ADSL hands down until BT dump the speaker wire connection.

Cables weak link is the UBR which NTL need to be continually upgrading as more customers come on line.

Like VDSL and 21cn

And obviously Cable can only beat DSL in the areas it is in. DSL will always be here as it covers a far more percentage of the UK then Cable will for a long time. Its like people saying "well you can pnly get LLU if your exchange has it". Well its the same for Cable you can only get it if a cable runs down your road

Paul K · 10-12-2006, 16:56

21Cn is years away for some areas so it will be a while before companies have to really start trying to compete properly.

Central · 10-12-2006, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Paul

21Cn is years away for some areas so it will be a while before companies have to really start trying to compete properly.

My area is due to be completed in 24 months which is not to long considering how time seems to be flying by

SnoopZ · 10-12-2006, 16:59

I don't live in a city so my area is due in late 2009.

I can only get about 6.5mbit ADSL MAX and i'm only 569metres(straight line) from my exchange.

10-12-2006, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Be*

Like VDSL and 21cn

And obviously Cable can only beat DSL in the areas it is in. DSL will always be here as it covers a far more percentage of the UK then Cable will for a long time. Its like people saying "well you can pnly get LLU if your exchange has it". Well its the same for Cable you can only get it if a cable runs down your road

21cn still uses the speaker wire connection. VDSL is even more affected by distance.

Central · 10-12-2006, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Bill C

21cn still uses the speaker wire connection. VDSL is even more affected by distance.

Not for me

And anyway until Telewest can offer me 20mb for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£24 i am happy here. And yes i need to play for Line rental but I would need to on blueyonder to as I have Sky Multi room. So makes no diff

Paul K · 10-12-2006, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Be*

My area is due to be completed in 24 months which is not to long considering how time seems to be flying by

24 months = 2 years so you are in theory

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years away

are you not

Central · 10-12-2006, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Paul

24 months = 2 years so you are in theory are you not

Well its Q4 2008 so it could be completed in Sept 2008 which would mean under 2 years

Paul K · 10-12-2006, 17:11

Knowing BT I wouldn't hold my breath on an early completion...... their engineers went to the same school as NTL when it came to getting a job done on time lol
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Shouldn't you and Bill still be swinging handbags at each other??

Central · 10-12-2006, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Paul

Knowing BT I wouldn't hold my breath on an early completion...... their engineers went to the same school as NTL when it came to getting a job done on time lol
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Shouldn't you and Bill still be swinging handbags at each other??

I am waiting for him to reply

10-12-2006, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Be*

I am waiting for him to reply

As for 21cn If you talk to some of the BT engineers they will give you a better idea of what they think of it

About a little side bet

Bet i can get 50 meg before you can on BT via you home connection.

Central · 10-12-2006, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Bill C

About a little side bet

Bet i can get 50 meg before you can on BT via you home connection.

I bet you would of said that about 20mb two years ago

Juan · 10-12-2006, 17:46

21 CN will make no difference to broadband speeds. 21CN means the exchange equipment is changed but the access network stays the same, i.e. copper - kind of like putting a Formula 1 engine in a Model T Ford.